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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Stein with gene and with Chris

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Chris being on remote this week but

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right now let's begin to talk about why

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Chris is remote and not local at his

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home office recording studio so Chris

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tell our listeners where you are at this

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very moment well I've been working all

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week at the citizens hearing on

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disclosure I was hired as a as a

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videographer camera person and tech to

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help out document this

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well some people would like to think

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it's a historic occasion I must say when

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I was first when I first heard about

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this particular Steven Bassett

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extravaganza I was a little bit dubious

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that it would be anything more than an

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exercise but you know I think my mind

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has been changed somewhat with the

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quality of presentations of quality of

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participants and the fact that it it is

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at the National Press Club here in

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Washington DC just two short blocks from

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the White House and you know it's been a

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whirlwind it's been a really interesting

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week there's been quite a number of very

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interesting participants today was quite

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fascinating actually we had a whole

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international day we had a number of

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people from all over the world including

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the head of the largest UFO civilian UFO

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research organization from China you

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know some names that appear casters I'm

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sure are familiar with Grant camera

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including presidential UFO Dom Antonio

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who næss has been on at least five

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different panels very very articulate

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and extremely up to speed on

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international affairs as it pertains to

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the UFO question we had a whole

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contingent from South America as well

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five different countries were

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represented a che guevara

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a number of investigators from well from

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Argentina Peru

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I'm Uruguay Brazil it's fascinating

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stuff and of course yeah I made the

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comment several times today that boy

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this week has been like a postgraduate

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student having to go back to first grade

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the Congress people and Senator that are

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making up this panel are not up to speed

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on the subject and unfortunately we

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really had to take them by the hand and

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lead them through the whole UFO subject

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it was quite fascinating to see them get

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a very up to speed education they were

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paid fairly well for their participation

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each one received twenty thousand

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dollars for the week which when you

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think about it isn't too terribly much

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money there's been some newspaper

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articles that have you know actually

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slagged them for accepting money to do

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something like this but some of the

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writers of these articles probably get

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that much for a single hour presentation

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when they go out on the stump and start

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doing speaking to her so it's kind of

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the pot calling the kettle black I think

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but it's been a fascinating exercise

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Jeanne and and you know we've had we've

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had quite a interesting turnout I was

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hoping for satellite trucks outside but

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but the mainstream media is just now

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starting to pick up on it and we'll have

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to see after all is said and done how

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this thing really actually you know kind

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of know hopefully you'll have some sort

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of impact in the media in the long run

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well I'm going to quote something right

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now from Leslie Kane who of course has

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been longtime researcher in UFOs

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investigative journalists has written

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one of the few best-selling books about

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UFOs and she was asked on Facebook and

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because it's been quoted on our forums

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I'll mention it she was asked why she

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isn't in there and she said no I wasn't

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invited I don't support the premise upon

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which this is based

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already it has generated much ridicule

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in the media we'll get into that in a

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moment and her follow-up comment is the

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premise is that there are

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extraterrestrial beings in communication

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with earthlings stated as a fact and

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that the governments of the world know

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this and have been covering it up for

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decades such unprovable assumptions

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are counterproductive when approaching

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government officials and scientists and

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they invite ridicule by the media that's

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what Leslie Kane said let me just say on

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something that well gene before you go

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on I I think she's actually quoting

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articles from writers who weren't here

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because those sort sorts of assertions

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were not made in fact I think the

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participants on the panels were very

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careful not to make those types of

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assumption so Leslie is actually playing

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into the ridicule part of this and I

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don't think is actually reflecting what

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has actually gone on here so continue

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okay I wanted to bring back here

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remembrances of major Donald Kehoe now

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Kehoe in the 50s 60s etc was roundly

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criticized for being too politically

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correct in trying to generate hearings

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from Congress getting more scientific

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interest so he would avoid gang involved

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in contact claims and reluctantly got

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interested in abduction claims and

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anything that strayed from the basic UFO

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theory that these are solid objects that

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can be tracked on radar that leave trace

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evidence that fly in ways that exceed

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our scientific knowledge he of course

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maintained there were spaceships but he

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wanted scientific investigation and we

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get to some of the power physical UFOs

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the stranger aspects of it he didn't

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want it now that was a representative of

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his personal belief now whether or not

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that was representative of his personal

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belief is not important it was being

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very careful being very conservative in

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making presentations before people who

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are apt to be skeptical you want him to

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first get interested in the subject

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believe it's worthy of scientific study

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and let them discover the stranger

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aspects of the mystery and all the side

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issues that was his approach and I

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gather at Leslie Kane is taking a

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similar approach now I understand here

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if you read some of the stories have

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come out and you've been tied up to the

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video camera all week so I'll assume you

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haven't seen all right no okay New York

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Daily News for example we have a story

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from the New York Daily News and

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we just put it here UFO buffs beam up to

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well-paid X polls New York Daily News a

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New York Daily News can visit tabloid

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newspaper it can be a little extreme so

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what they did of course is they

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emphasize the people with the propellers

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on their head someone wearing a t-shirt

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saying Telos Hollow Earth ok another

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picture shows a congressman who has his

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fist on his face and he looks like he's

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about to go to sleep well I mean anybody

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has ever seen a congressional hearing I

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mean you can grab any number of shots of

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Congress people in various poses like

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that that's not I don't think that's

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fair it's common of course that if

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you're practicing gotcha journalism you

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will find a picture showing the person

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you why depict in the worst light so if

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for example if you like President Obama

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he's gonna be smiling if you don't like

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him you find the picture where he's

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frowning for a second and of course no

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individual no human being can have a

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perfect face all the time this is how it

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goes eugene i've rag because i don't let

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my face seen my face has never seen in

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connection with anything therefore i

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don't have to worry about the poker face

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but okay so you're going to respond to

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that before i go on to the other press

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clipping going well again i really you

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know i i do as i mentioned on the show

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last week i was a little bit reticent

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about the possibility of this actually

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gaining any sort of traction inside the

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beltway here or for that matter gaining

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any sort of traction to invite some sort

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of multinational effort for some sort of

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scientific conference which which

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appears to be the way this whole thing

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may be headed some sort of General

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Assembly resolution but you know I I

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think it's important for people to

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understand that this hearing was

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actually very very conservative in its

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approach it was stated on an on numerous

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occasions that we do not know what we

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are dealing with the governments of the

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world apparently do not know the actual

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you know who these pilots of these craft

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are obviously it's

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assumed by some people and some

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governments that a it is likely that

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we're dealing with some sort of

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off-planet intelligence but this it was

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very very clear from the presenters with

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a couple of exceptions in the house even

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greer there were a number of exceptions

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to that but for the most part everyone

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was very very careful I think and very

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conservative in saying look you know if

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we look at the facts we really don't

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know you know exactly how the

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governments are thinking what they're

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thinking is on this and and whether we

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are dealing with something off planet

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I'll tell you what we'll go off planet

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if we don't make this break with gene

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and Chris you're in don't complain about

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your cable bill going up and up and up

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the people who were there people like

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Richard Dolan you know really good

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people with straightforward

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presentations about UFOs you know Peter

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Davenport uh you know I mean we've had a

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number of very very good presentations

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Daniel Sheehan the list goes on and on

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AJ Guevara just a wonderful

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cross-section of the field we've had

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visitors from as many as eight or nine

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different countries possibly ten I

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haven't really counted so it was yeah

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this whole thing was

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in the approximate manner that a real

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congressional hearing was done people

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had a little bit more time to present

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their information they were little acts

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on you know timing these things we all

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know that congressional hearings can be

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very regimented timewise and there were

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some PowerPoint presentations were

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allowed certain images were presented

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but when you get you know military

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pilots talking about firing 64 rounds of

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thirty millimeter cannon fired an object

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that's that's just right in front of him

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and having having that object absorb

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these rounds you know we're talking

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about a colonel in the Air Force in the

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you know South American Air Force I mean

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this is riveting stuff no question about

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it

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the most part I am generalizing here

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there were some presentations that I

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would not have included there are some

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that I would have included it weren't

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but I think by and large this has been

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an exercise to show that it is possible

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to create a sober conservative

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well-thought-out approach to educating

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politicians and people in positions of

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power about this subject and that it is

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there's very erudite very well-spoken

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very learned people we had a number of

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PhDs that presented it's very difficult

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to take some of these people's you know

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very passionate in and I think very well

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presented bits of information and

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presentations and and just this them the

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way some of the media it will

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undoubtedly will well here's the problem

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Chris this is the big problem the

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problem is not that 90% or 95% of the

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speakers are pretty sensible people it

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is those few percent who are

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controversial that they will seize on

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the exception but obviously we also

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would have liked to have had Stephen

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Bassett who's the promoter of this event

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to come on but he's been so busy with

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this and he's also no doubt upset with

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the way he was treated on the power cast

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when he was on the show maybe six years

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ago and he didn't mention anything about

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that he's just really really super tied

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up and busy yeah because at that time I

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think the areas where we disagree with

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him is not that the easeness is here

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about

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what he's doing but he allowed people

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who are more extreme to have a place at

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the podium he wasn't maybe vetting his

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guests as much as he should have of

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course one example would be one of the

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featured people Steven Greer who has

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this picture or this movie of a six inch

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supposed alien body that's his big thing

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now let me ask you about that though

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with Greer when get back to more

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sensible stuff in a moment we did talk

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about Greer last week did you get a

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chance to see much of his documentary in

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his presentation no I didn't I was busy

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doing other things unfortunately at that

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point I haven't had a chance to see it I

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have heard some scuttlebutt about it

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pretty much everybody kind of ignored it

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I didn't really hear many people talking

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about the following day it didn't have

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the was the wow factor I think that he

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was hoping for I think everybody kind of

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the people that did show up and watch it

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you know I I didn't really hear much

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talk about it you know I think the

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little talk that I did hear about it was

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more about the whole concept of

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alternative energy and and zero-point

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energy and in the possibility of coming

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up with something some sort of you know

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alternative energy to petroleum products

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and that seemed to be the topic of

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conversation the little miniature

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humanoid from the Atacama was it was you

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know people chuckled about it a little

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bit and and from what I understand that

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particular part of the documentary was

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not really the focus of the piece I mean

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that was just a kind of a sidelight

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really to to the rest of the piece and

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you know I will watch it I ran into

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Kevin Randle as he was going down the

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elevator and I said well Kevin so you

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going back to the to the event and he

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said oh yeah and I said oh you're gonna

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see the movement he goes I have to too

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many people are gonna ask me about it

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so I got to go see it and he kind of

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rolled his eyes

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I think Greer you know and you have to

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really you know if I if I just kind of

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look look at his whole thing as

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objectively as possible you the one

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thing you do have to admit is the man

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his passionate he may be misguided he

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may be delusional he may be a lot of

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things but one thing he is not and that

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is he is not dispassionate about this

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subject and you know I've known Stephen

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for twenty years I told him 20 years ago

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in front of a lot of very very wealthy

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individuals at a talk that I gave for

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them at his behest that his message is

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more important than he is and as soon as

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he realizes that then I think his

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message will have a lot more impact but

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you know again he's damaged goods and I

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think Linda Howe is another example of

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someone she got up there and said the

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cattle mutilation phenomenon is

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extraterrestrials coming and gathering

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genetic material for for the purposes of

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cloning and to me that is it's such a

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leap and it's such a just a

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grandstanding sensation grabbing type

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comment and analysis on her part and you

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know I you're right you know it doesn't

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take very many bad apples in in a barrel

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to kind of tarnish the rest of them so

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it's unfortunate but you know you have

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to take the good with the bad sometimes

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and I've been so you know just dialed in

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on you know attempting to produce a

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on-the-fly you know quality screaming

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project and video shoot that you know

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it's been very difficult for me to get

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out and rub elbows and move and shake

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away normally do it these types of

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events but I have had a chance to talk

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to a number of people most people are

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actually surprised that the the the mood

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and the tenor of this whole thing has an

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air of legitimacy in terms of the

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subject matter being presented in the

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manner that it's being presented and and

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that I think has surprised some people

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including myself I I don't again I don't

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see a snowball's chance in hell of this

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ever actually being taken up on the

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floor of the US Congress no way

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knows no way shape or form well they did

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that once in the 60s and that didn't go

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anywhere

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you know the Condon report exactly well

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the condo report has been discussed in

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in some detail

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and of course you know the fact that

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Condon had already made his mind up

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before the report here the investigation

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even began and the fact that he was

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actually tasked by the Air Force to make

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this subject go away so we can close

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blue book some very good evidence was

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brought forth to support that particular

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assertion very very handily done by a

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number of researchers and Sam Friedman

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and Cameron Antonius and others you know

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they've they've dug up the goods on the

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man in terms of correspondents and other

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things there's been a lot of minutiae in

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this whole thing there's been a lot of

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supportive data that the Congress people

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by the end of day 2 we're really

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you are tuned in to the para cast let me

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tell you what you're gonna hear stuff

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here that you probably won't hear

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anywhere else with Gina and Chris on the

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para cast Chris is unseen or near the

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scene of the citizens hearing on

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disclosure taking place at the National

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Press Club and I was asking you Chris

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about the press coverage earlier we

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mentioned that the New York Daily News

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wasn't very happy about it one of the

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bloggers made a big deal about the

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members of Congress who were there the X

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members of Congress and some of the

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sillier things they've said and then

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there was a story I caught from the

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Washington Times before the event where

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it was more or less serious but

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mentioned the fact that a couple of

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years back Steven Bassett had sponsored

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a petition on disclosure with less than

652
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20,000 signatures went to the White

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House and a response from the White

654
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House flunky who said of course that

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they determined there are no UFOs that's

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it

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I saw story in The Washington Post which

658
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was okay are we seeing much media

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presence there though well initially no

660
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there was very little you know

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mainstream you know marquee name

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publications here we did have a

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photographer from the

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or times who was just blown away by the

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quality of you know the presenters the

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first day and has been doggin for two

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days his writer who I guess would be

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covering an event like this here in DC

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and we do expect hopefully to have some

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sort of coverage from the New York Times

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00:28:54,010 --> 00:28:49,690
we have seen some bloggers some smaller

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00:28:56,890 --> 00:28:54,020
alternative news writers here and

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stringers and and whatnot but you know

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there's not that we don't have a line of

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satellite trucks down the down the block

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by any stretch that's to be expected I

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mean an event like this is you know I

678
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mean it really doesn't have much of a

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chance to gain some sort of mainstream

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00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:17,930
coverage I you know and all of us knew

681
00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:20,480
this going in I think you and me have

682
00:29:25,540 --> 00:29:22,340
talked about this here the last couple

683
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:25,550
of weeks since actually since this whole

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thing was announced but because of the

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quality of presentations and you know a

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certain level of gravitas actually has

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been attained

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much to my surprise I think in in some

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some sense I do expect that we will at

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some point see some some sort of

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mainstream coverage but again you know

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you would think here at the National

693
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Press Club that the event would draw at

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least some attention

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other than the you know whistling

696
00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:03,670
Twilight Zone theme little green men

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side coverage that evidently the Daily

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News New York Daily News supplied its

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00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,770
readers well a lot of it is of course

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that there are lots of other stories

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being discussed of course they're still

702
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talking about the immigration law

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00:30:25,570 --> 00:30:22,190
they're still talking about North Korea

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though that's died down obviously the

705
00:30:31,810 --> 00:30:29,180
bombings in Boston events in Syria will

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the US have to act you know all sorts of

707
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:34,190
political stuff in Washington which is

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getting first play and maybe in terms of

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00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:37,810
news in a

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00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:40,360
turned a story of this sort is destined

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00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:42,760
not to get the coverage no matter what

712
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:45,280
well you know yeah you know tell us all

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something we don't know I mean this has

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been you know pretty much the way it's

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been for the last four decades and in

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that goes with the territory it's five

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00:31:01,380 --> 00:30:58,630
steps forward four and a half steps back

718
00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:01,390
you know constantly just getting any

719
00:31:05,850 --> 00:31:04,350
sort of recognition for the subject is a

720
00:31:08,810 --> 00:31:05,860
big deal

721
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:08,820
we don't have Larry King on CNN

722
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:13,440
providing fairly balanced and in quality

723
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:16,240
coverage of the subject and we don't

724
00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:17,850
have some of the other mainstream

725
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:20,460
supporters of the subject out there

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00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:23,770
covering this which which comes as no

727
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:25,990
surprise I think your your point is

728
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:29,050
well-taken gene that you know about its

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00:31:36,030 --> 00:31:32,500
petition with the extraterrestrial slant

730
00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:36,040
on it and bringing the whole idea of you

731
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:39,150
know just accepting the concept that

732
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:41,650
extraterrestrials are here interacting

733
00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:44,200
with us and responsible for the UFO

734
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:46,840
phenomenon you and I both know in our

735
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:48,730
listeners know we've been saying this

736
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:51,310
for years that you need to be more

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00:31:56,130 --> 00:31:53,200
conservative with the way you approach

738
00:31:58,860 --> 00:31:56,140
the subject and language the subject I

739
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,870
think it's really important to take that

740
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:01,120
sort of conservative ratcheted back

741
00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:04,210
approach you know unfortunately that has

742
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:05,830
been the way that this whole thing has

743
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:08,620
unfolded it has unfolded in a way that's

744
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:11,350
objective that looks at the facts that

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00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:13,600
looks at the evidence that looks at

746
00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:16,270
documentation that looks at release of

747
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:18,940
material by governments around the world

748
00:32:26,430 --> 00:32:23,770
and I think if mainstream stringers and

749
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:26,440
reporters had been here listening to

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00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:28,360
this information they would not have

751
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:31,780
relegated it to the friday-night little

752
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,060
green man end of the segment sort of

753
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:37,120
local news it's the third of jokes it

754
00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:39,490
really has been presented well III

755
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,240
actually am surprised that at how trying

756
00:32:48,810 --> 00:32:45,120
to look for the word but it just seems

757
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:48,820
mature objective and so were the way the

758
00:32:53,340 --> 00:32:51,010
whole thing has been presented with

759
00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:53,350
one or two exceptions here and there but

760
00:32:59,820 --> 00:32:56,470
I think by and large I think the people

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00:33:01,610 --> 00:32:59,830
that were presented here the subjects in

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00:33:06,330 --> 00:33:01,620
the subject matter and how it was

763
00:33:08,610 --> 00:33:06,340
conveyed how it was relayed to these you

764
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:08,620
know retired basically Congress people

765
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:11,050
and I think we have a senator here as

766
00:33:19,410 --> 00:33:14,440
well a retired senator I mean they have

767
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:19,420
expressed their astonishment at you know

768
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:24,310
the revelations that have been kind of

769
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:25,930
put in their direction I mean we're

770
00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:28,150
talking hundreds of thousands of pages

771
00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:32,560
of documentation we're talking hundreds

772
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:34,750
of thousands of sighting reports and

773
00:33:39,510 --> 00:33:37,630
even if only 5% of these are real we're

774
00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:39,520
talking about thousands of reports that

775
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:43,000
deserve scientific attention these facts

776
00:33:48,090 --> 00:33:45,510
have really impressed these these ex

777
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:48,100
congressional people and and I think

778
00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:49,690
it's really come across in their

779
00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:51,400
comments in the quality of their

780
00:33:57,060 --> 00:33:54,940
questions and in their their enthusiasm

781
00:33:59,730 --> 00:33:57,070
I I think that they're they're actually

782
00:34:02,340 --> 00:33:59,740
trying to help the field come up with a

783
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:02,350
way to get mainstream acceptance on a

784
00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:04,420
worldwide stage for the subject matter

785
00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:06,790
that would be a major question of course

786
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:09,159
whether these ex members of Congress

787
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:12,550
even have the political clout anymore to

788
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:14,409
persuade the people who are currently in

789
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:16,690
those positions either the people who

790
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:19,090
replace them or other colleagues they

791
00:34:22,619 --> 00:34:20,050
built up especially those

792
00:34:24,180 --> 00:34:22,629
representatives who were in Congress for

793
00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:24,190
a number of years they have to have all

794
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,080
those alliances but you kind of think

795
00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:28,720
also with UFOs so many of them won't

796
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,460
touch the thing with a ten-foot pole

797
00:34:34,649 --> 00:34:32,800
maybe these representatives are

798
00:34:37,379 --> 00:34:34,659
seriously listening they're truly

799
00:34:40,619 --> 00:34:37,389
impressed by the kind of evidence with

800
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:40,629
the field coming up with workarounds as

801
00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:42,220
I mentioned earlier I think it's

802
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:44,260
important to understand that there's not

803
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:47,520
a snowball's chance in hell that such a

804
00:34:52,860 --> 00:34:50,409
poisonous third rail subject would ever

805
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:52,870
be embraced by anyone in the US Congress

806
00:34:58,740 --> 00:34:55,870
I mean that that's pretty much everybody

807
00:35:01,530 --> 00:34:58,750
agrees that that's just not a fruitful

808
00:35:03,630 --> 00:35:01,540
Avenue to try to go down basically what

809
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:03,640
they're what they're suggesting and I

810
00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:04,070
think

811
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:06,950
but you know a number of the presenters

812
00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:09,920
are agreeing with is some sort of UN

813
00:35:14,770 --> 00:35:11,780
approach some sort of multinational

814
00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:14,780
approach that almost shames the u.s.

815
00:35:19,390 --> 00:35:17,420
into doing the right thing obviously I

816
00:35:21,340 --> 00:35:19,400
mean it's been really demonstrated I

817
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:21,350
think very effectively by the presenters

818
00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:24,500
that the United States basically is is

819
00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:26,750
his captain in this whole thing and it's

820
00:35:32,650 --> 00:35:30,280
running roughshod over disclosure and

821
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:32,660
what they're proposing is an end-around

822
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:35,090
get around the Security Council in the

823
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:39,170
UN come up with some sort of of I don't

824
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know it ain't you know Daniel Sheehan

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00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:45,110
and a group right now is actually coming

826
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:49,730
up with a with a an idea to present some

827
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:51,740
sort of resolution to the General

828
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:54,590
Assembly that would then restart what

829
00:36:00,220 --> 00:35:57,890
Grenada tried to do back in the 70s I

830
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mean the only real attempt that's been

831
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made in a multinational level to my

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00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:05,540
knowledge was back in I think 77 or

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sometime in the mid to late seventies

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when when the premier was kind of

835
00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:15,130
dictator or Pedroni of Grenada tried to

836
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you know get a some sort of

837
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international recognition for the

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00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:22,160
subject and while he was busy doing that

839
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:25,820
he was handily deposed by an invasion of

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00:36:31,660 --> 00:36:29,570
Grenada under questionable pretense by

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the United States and now that I say not

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because he was going to come out with

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UFO information but conspiracy theorists

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would say that with Gene and Chris

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you waiting for

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pull out your major credit or debit card

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to stop six hits but what about the

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seventh unlike ceramic or Kevlar infidel

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body armor is proven to take hit after

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hit and it just won't quit

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carding to a private bank having a led

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back at interest

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forcing taxes to service debt this

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capitalism or was jefferson correct when

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stating a central bank issuing the

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public currency is a greater menace to

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the liberties of the people than a

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starving and my research led me to a

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information and you are listening to the

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podcast with Jeanne and with Chris and

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Chris is near the location of the

960
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Citizen hearing on disclosure which is

961
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being held in Washington DC sponsored by

962
00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:23,619
Steven Bassett I came back to mr.

963
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Bassett does his presence and his past

964
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:28,890
history does that hurt

965
00:41:35,550 --> 00:41:32,680
events of this sort well that's you know

966
00:41:36,990 --> 00:41:35,560
that's a good question and and one that

967
00:41:39,930 --> 00:41:37,000
I would have to think about yeah I think

968
00:41:41,820 --> 00:41:39,940
in one sense of the word sure does he

969
00:41:44,310 --> 00:41:41,830
does have a you know a presence here in

970
00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:44,320
the DC area of course with the with a

971
00:41:50,130 --> 00:41:47,080
long time running of the X conferences

972
00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:50,140
and you're nearby Maryland but you know

973
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:52,600
I think because he had this I don't know

974
00:41:56,910 --> 00:41:54,450
where he came up with it but he had a

975
00:42:00,300 --> 00:41:56,920
$600,000 budget to pull this thing off

976
00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:00,310
yeah I heard that he found as they say a

977
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:02,830
rich person they did mention him in the

978
00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:05,470
newspapers but you know to respond to

979
00:42:09,780 --> 00:42:07,270
what they say we have to attack that

980
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:09,790
individual which is not fair yeah you

981
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,609
know again I money has a habit of

982
00:42:18,660 --> 00:42:15,280
speaking loudly I think in in if you're

983
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:18,670
able to fund an event like this that

984
00:42:23,730 --> 00:42:22,030
does show that the passion and the

985
00:42:25,590 --> 00:42:23,740
policy that you have for a particular

986
00:42:28,770 --> 00:42:25,600
subject doesn't matter what it is in

987
00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:28,780
this case so you know Stephen does have

988
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,200
a rather checkered track record one of

989
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:34,480
the many you know we and we talked about

990
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:36,490
this gene on the show and other people

991
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:38,050
have mentioned it guests have mentioned

992
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:41,980
it that if you you mentioned it earlier

993
00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:44,560
in the conversation here that you know

994
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:46,300
if you have a couple of bad apples in

995
00:42:50,670 --> 00:42:47,920
the barrel it's gonna attain to

996
00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:50,680
everything else and you know you do have

997
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:54,460
to always keep in mind that the quality

998
00:43:05,960 --> 00:42:55,150
the

999
00:43:09,930 --> 00:43:05,970
expert or person presenting is going to

1000
00:43:13,470 --> 00:43:09,940
be the level of upon which everything

1001
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:13,480
else is going to be criticized or or

1002
00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:16,930
judged so you know that being said of

1003
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:18,870
course Stephen does have a history of

1004
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:22,000
presenting some questionable individuals

1005
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:25,000
at the X conference and and I think he

1006
00:43:31,050 --> 00:43:28,050
did a much better job vetting presenters

1007
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:31,060
--mess you know go around and I think

1008
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:35,920
the this novel forum and format that

1009
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:38,760
he's chosen I think is very creative I

1010
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:42,850
really do feel that III have been

1011
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:46,510
actually impressed with the way this

1012
00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:49,990
whole thing has gone much to my actual

1013
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:52,270
surprise I didn't think I thought I

1014
00:43:57,870 --> 00:43:54,190
would be coming in here very jaded and

1015
00:43:59,580 --> 00:43:57,880
very you know just not believing in you

1016
00:44:02,070 --> 00:43:59,590
know that you could pull something like

1017
00:44:03,930 --> 00:44:02,080
this off and he's actually doing it this

1018
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:03,940
is being pulled off and it's being

1019
00:44:09,390 --> 00:44:06,400
streamed live anyone's interested go

1020
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:09,400
this is citizens hearing on disclosure

1021
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:11,770
calm I'm not exactly sure what the

1022
00:44:16,350 --> 00:44:13,930
website is you can help me out with that

1023
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:16,360
I have assumed it's gonna be after the

1024
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:20,560
event its Citizen hearing gorg Citizen

1025
00:44:24,690 --> 00:44:22,690
hearing gorg know we're streaming live

1026
00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:24,700
every day sure what this show is gonna

1027
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:26,740
be heard after the facts so will there

1028
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:30,250
be no right of course yeah I'm sure

1029
00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:31,450
there will be I'm sure it'll be

1030
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:34,380
available to stream in its entirety I

1031
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:37,630
really found that for instance today

1032
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:39,910
with the South American contingent

1033
00:44:46,050 --> 00:44:42,580
coming in the and the international

1034
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:46,060
presentations are over fascinating and I

1035
00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:49,030
I learned I learned something I came

1036
00:44:53,580 --> 00:44:50,740
into this thinking that you know I would

1037
00:44:56,250 --> 00:44:53,590
not be really hearing anything new but

1038
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:56,260
today was an exception I did learn some

1039
00:45:02,790 --> 00:44:58,720
new things I really feel that there is a

1040
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:02,800
paper trail that does indict the United

1041
00:45:06,780 --> 00:45:05,350
States in many ways I mean the United

1042
00:45:08,940 --> 00:45:06,790
States has been very active the

1043
00:45:12,990 --> 00:45:08,950
intelligence community is the

1044
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,000
the Armed Forces the military and NASA

1045
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:15,520
even in some cases has been involved

1046
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:18,910
very very directly and heavily with

1047
00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:23,050
other countries crash retrievals alleged

1048
00:45:31,050 --> 00:45:27,150
crash retrievals and citing events

1049
00:45:33,690 --> 00:45:31,060
project saucer i found out which was a

1050
00:45:36,180 --> 00:45:33,700
four month you know the brazilian air

1051
00:45:37,830 --> 00:45:36,190
force basically because of the Caloris

1052
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:37,840
events and the events at the mouth of

1053
00:45:43,230 --> 00:45:40,810
the amazon river back in seventy seven

1054
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:43,240
where people were actually being

1055
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:45,730
attacked quite enough dozens of people

1056
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:50,050
were severely injured one person in one

1057
00:45:55,050 --> 00:45:53,410
sense up to four people and I've even

1058
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:55,060
heard stories of even more people were

1059
00:46:01,170 --> 00:45:59,200
actually killed by UFO attacks I mean

1060
00:46:04,110 --> 00:46:01,180
this is this is heavy stuff and and

1061
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:04,120
these Congress people were quite alarmed

1062
00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:06,310
at hearing this information of course

1063
00:46:11,070 --> 00:46:08,830
shock lolei mentioned these these

1064
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:11,080
particular incidents in his book

1065
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:13,090
confrontations Bob Pratt wrote a book

1066
00:46:16,890 --> 00:46:14,130
about it

1067
00:46:19,470 --> 00:46:16,900
they were quite amazed at this and and

1068
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:19,480
what amazed me was that project saucer

1069
00:46:26,220 --> 00:46:21,850
was only lasted for four months from

1070
00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:26,230
September through December 1977 and if I

1071
00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:29,260
remember the actual year and then as

1072
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:32,340
soon as there was a actual face-to-face

1073
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:35,530
contact with the head of project saucer

1074
00:46:40,740 --> 00:46:37,390
who was in the Brazilian Air Force

1075
00:46:42,690 --> 00:46:40,750
officer they immediately they closed the

1076
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:42,700
project down as soon as the u.s. got

1077
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:44,290
involved as soon as there was direct

1078
00:46:48,990 --> 00:46:47,530
contact allegedly then the project was

1079
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:49,000
shut down when it was taken over by the

1080
00:46:54,030 --> 00:46:51,220
US military and intelligence services so

1081
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:54,040
that to me was a bit of a revelation I

1082
00:46:59,820 --> 00:46:56,170
did not know this information and there

1083
00:47:01,770 --> 00:46:59,830
were a number of very interesting you

1084
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:01,780
know kind of subtleties and and and

1085
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:05,490
blatant examples of u.s. involvement in

1086
00:47:11,490 --> 00:47:09,790
the UFO subject overseas and I think

1087
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:11,500
this was came as quite a surprise to

1088
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:14,410
many people including these neophyte

1089
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:18,210
Congress people who are being given a

1090
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:21,130
pretty intensive education here in the

1091
00:47:24,540 --> 00:47:22,690
last four days it's it's

1092
00:47:26,579 --> 00:47:24,550
pretty intense for them and and they're

1093
00:47:28,620 --> 00:47:26,589
hanging in there with it now Chris is

1094
00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:28,630
talking to us on a Thursday so it's

1095
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:31,200
Thursday's events which included the

1096
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:34,569
Latin American visitors now I understand

1097
00:47:39,450 --> 00:47:37,390
from AJ's newsletter that they've sapped

1098
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:39,460
some kind of channel to communicate with

1099
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:41,530
the government and UFO researchers there

1100
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:44,890
in recent months yes they have actually

1101
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:47,770
according to AJ there has been a a

1102
00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:50,680
melding of civilian and and actual

1103
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:52,750
government investigative efforts and

1104
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:55,450
research efforts now imagine before you

1105
00:47:59,370 --> 00:47:56,410
tell us more

1106
00:48:02,819 --> 00:47:59,380
imagine if the US government hooked up

1107
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:02,829
with MUFON it'd be like that right if

1108
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:05,920
you'd like that yeah like a snowball's

1109
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:09,250
chance in I don't know it'd be so or

1110
00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:11,440
something no no that I I just said

1111
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:12,670
there's no way that that could happen

1112
00:48:18,180 --> 00:48:15,670
the fact that it has happened in Brazil

1113
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:18,190
and the fact that the for instance the

1114
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:20,200
the commander report which is this

1115
00:48:24,930 --> 00:48:22,150
civilian report but you know in France

1116
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:24,940
but you know we have seen other

1117
00:48:31,170 --> 00:48:28,060
countries that actually have Uruguay for

1118
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:31,180
instance for many years has had complete

1119
00:48:38,069 --> 00:48:34,720
transparency at least you know we can we

1120
00:48:41,940 --> 00:48:38,079
can say that based on what we know but

1121
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:41,950
these types of scenarios I think are a

1122
00:48:47,970 --> 00:48:44,950
lot more commonplace in South America

1123
00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:47,980
and other countries then they'll ever be

1124
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:50,440
here basically what's coming out of this

1125
00:48:55,859 --> 00:48:52,690
is is the US is cracking the whip on

1126
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:55,869
this and and everybody is following the

1127
00:49:00,569 --> 00:48:58,450
u.s. is lead to a certain extent and the

1128
00:49:03,690 --> 00:49:00,579
u.s. is the ultimate egg that needs to

1129
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:03,700
be be cracked before we'll get any sort

1130
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:06,670
of mainstream acceptance for this

1131
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:09,540
subject and most importantly scientific

1132
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:11,470
involvement with the mainstream

1133
00:49:16,349 --> 00:49:13,900
scientific community it's it's pretty

1134
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:16,359
apparent to me that that the u.s. is

1135
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:18,250
really calling the shots on this and of

1136
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:21,970
course the media in this country as we

1137
00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:25,500
have talked about already is pretty much

1138
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:29,369
their toe on the line and and and

1139
00:49:36,210 --> 00:49:33,690
maintaining this this kind of air of

1140
00:49:38,730 --> 00:49:36,220
ridicule and debunking that's

1141
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:38,740
in place and so Robertson panels in the

1142
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:41,890
early 50s when when this CIA decided

1143
00:49:47,490 --> 00:49:44,590
that the only way to deal with this

1144
00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:47,500
project in in terms of the public is to

1145
00:49:52,589 --> 00:49:49,359
ridicule it and in their own words

1146
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:52,599
debunk it so you know sixty years down

1147
00:49:59,880 --> 00:49:55,650
the road we're still seeing this very

1148
00:50:01,740 --> 00:49:59,890
entrenched a sort of approach by the

1149
00:50:03,060 --> 00:50:01,750
media that's in place in this country

1150
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:03,070
and that's not the case in other

1151
00:50:09,450 --> 00:50:06,730
countries as I as I and others found out

1152
00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:09,460
today now the thing to point out here is

1153
00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:13,780
that do you think that all these years

1154
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:16,270
the media conglomerates have been under

1155
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:18,970
the influence of the government of the

1156
00:50:23,010 --> 00:50:21,070
United States to do this or it's just a

1157
00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:23,020
force have happened well UFOs it's a

1158
00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:23,980
wacky subject

1159
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:26,260
why pay an attention if we have more

1160
00:50:30,330 --> 00:50:28,810
important things to cover well I think

1161
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:30,340
there's a little bit of that but I think

1162
00:50:38,250 --> 00:50:34,260
that that we've seen almost a

1163
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:38,260
institutional sort of boiler plated

1164
00:50:45,540 --> 00:50:43,060
response our good friend and buddy on

1165
00:50:48,570 --> 00:50:45,550
the pair casts forum forum dr. Peric

1166
00:50:50,820 --> 00:50:48,580
ascom Lance Moody who you know back in

1167
00:50:53,339 --> 00:50:50,830
the early 90s was involved in in coming

1168
00:50:56,099 --> 00:50:53,349
up with boiler plated responses

1169
00:50:58,380 --> 00:50:56,109
skeptical responses to media stories it

1170
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,390
would appear in media outlets around the

1171
00:51:04,650 --> 00:51:00,880
country you know I think it's it's

1172
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:04,660
become so institutionalized at the

1173
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:06,910
behest of the government originally of

1174
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:09,760
course the New York Times response to

1175
00:51:15,630 --> 00:51:11,920
the initial Roswell story I think is a

1176
00:51:16,980 --> 00:51:15,640
classic sort of typhoid mary story by

1177
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:16,990
the way Chris will tell you what that

1178
00:51:23,490 --> 00:51:20,290
typhoid mary example was as we continue

1179
00:51:26,849 --> 00:51:23,500
with our coverage of the citizens

1180
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hearing on disclosure or no disclosure

1181
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:29,050
as it were with gene and Chris you're in

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are you tired of searching for a great

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investment advisors won't talk about

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1220
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1221
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1222
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1223
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confiscated possibly by executive order

1224
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1234
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welcome back to the para cast the gold

1235
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:04,000
standard of paranormal radio and now

1236
00:54:15,579 --> 00:54:11,690
here's Jean Steinberg with Jean with

1237
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:15,589
Chris on the para cast Chris is live or

1238
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:17,510
at least if you hear the show several

1239
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:20,480
days removed from his live recording at

1240
00:54:24,670 --> 00:54:22,609
the Citizen hearing on disclosure he's

1241
00:54:26,349 --> 00:54:24,680
over at the hotel and it's been an

1242
00:54:28,690 --> 00:54:26,359
exciting event in fact I guess we hope

1243
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:28,700
to have isn't working on a UN resolution

1244
00:54:33,130 --> 00:54:31,369
we have to wonder how that's going to

1245
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:33,140
turn out and I think one of the

1246
00:54:40,180 --> 00:54:35,839
discussions we had before we did our

1247
00:54:42,490 --> 00:54:40,190
break was about institutional secrecy in

1248
00:54:45,970 --> 00:54:42,500
the sense the media has been conditioned

1249
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:45,980
to expect that UFOs are not real it's

1250
00:54:50,109 --> 00:54:48,410
just a funny story for the end of the

1251
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:50,119
broadcast or if you have nothing better

1252
00:54:54,970 --> 00:54:52,490
to talk about so anytime we have these

1253
00:54:57,099 --> 00:54:54,980
events that's just another UFO story we

1254
00:54:59,530 --> 00:54:57,109
don't need it that explains a lack of

1255
00:55:01,540 --> 00:54:59,540
all those cable news satellites

1256
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:01,550
oh by the way I should mention something

1257
00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:04,400
one of the participants over at the

1258
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:07,430
conference is Richard Dolan of course he

1259
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:10,640
did that book with Bryce Abel ad after

1260
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:13,910
disclosure and of course he's covered

1261
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:16,130
UFOs in the national security state two

1262
00:55:23,140 --> 00:55:19,839
books third coming now according to

1263
00:55:26,770 --> 00:55:23,150
another report in our forums they asked

1264
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:26,780
Dolan why he appeared with that crazy

1265
00:55:31,930 --> 00:55:29,810
character and a documentary the guy I

1266
00:55:34,059 --> 00:55:31,940
talked to him about that too in fact I

1267
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:34,069
happen to run into him as I was coming

1268
00:55:38,109 --> 00:55:36,290
in to check in and he turned around in

1269
00:55:41,620 --> 00:55:38,119
salami came running over and said Chris

1270
00:55:44,109 --> 00:55:41,630
let me explain let me explain and and he

1271
00:55:48,430 --> 00:55:44,119
said he'd gotten several calls and

1272
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:48,440
emails about his appearance on the third

1273
00:55:54,670 --> 00:55:52,400
phase of moon radio show and he pleaded

1274
00:55:55,930 --> 00:55:54,680
ignorance he said I didn't know who

1275
00:55:58,930 --> 00:55:55,940
these people were this is the last

1276
00:56:01,780 --> 00:55:58,940
minute saying I was misled I didn't

1277
00:56:05,140 --> 00:56:01,790
really really realize he buddy he he

1278
00:56:07,390 --> 00:56:05,150
said looking I did it you know I kind of

1279
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:07,400
embarrassed about it but and I said look

1280
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:09,470
rich first of all I didn't really slow

1281
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:11,930
argue about it I understand you're your

1282
00:56:15,370 --> 00:56:13,490
publisher I mean you're trying to reach

1283
00:56:19,570 --> 00:56:15,380
other you know the biggest audience

1284
00:56:21,010 --> 00:56:19,580
possible and he said if I had known he

1285
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:21,020
said he wouldn't have done it if he had

1286
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:23,119
known exactly who these people were and

1287
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:26,210
he seemed a little embarrassed about the

1288
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:26,780
whole thing

1289
00:56:30,190 --> 00:56:28,609
well I know with some of the other

1290
00:56:32,410 --> 00:56:30,200
people who asked him the words were a

1291
00:56:33,609 --> 00:56:32,420
little more explicit but I expect

1292
00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:33,619
Stanton Friedman who was also

1293
00:56:37,150 --> 00:56:35,180
interviewed by that crew we won't

1294
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:37,160
mention their name anymore we call them

1295
00:56:44,050 --> 00:56:40,640
now the twins who shall not be named

1296
00:56:47,050 --> 00:56:44,060
okay moniker yeah right the twins who

1297
00:56:49,570 --> 00:56:47,060
shall not be named I sleep it out yeah

1298
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,580
did you have a bleep you know what I

1299
00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:51,920
think that might be fun we'll see what

1300
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:52,520
happens

1301
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:55,490
okay we'll record different bleeps and

1302
00:57:00,700 --> 00:56:58,400
so if you hear their name we decided to

1303
00:57:03,940 --> 00:57:00,710
not bleep it but if we bleep it than it

1304
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:03,950
is bleep okay and that's the bleeping it

1305
00:57:12,460 --> 00:57:09,410
bleep up Blake right right you see they

1306
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,470
say I tell bad jokes and we have that

1307
00:57:18,030 --> 00:57:14,720
listener and by the way I asked for an

1308
00:57:20,380 --> 00:57:18,040
example that where Chris tells bad jokes

1309
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:20,390
take my wife please I did that already

1310
00:57:28,930 --> 00:57:24,890
and Chris also says there are words he

1311
00:57:31,570 --> 00:57:28,940
utters words that do not exist very good

1312
00:57:36,910 --> 00:57:31,580
about that bull Puckey bull Puckey right

1313
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:36,920
and horse pakhi too and also he also has

1314
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:40,970
a tendency to engage in profanity I

1315
00:57:46,990 --> 00:57:44,530
don't do that that that's horse pucky

1316
00:57:48,820 --> 00:57:47,000
the horse is going to resent this you

1317
00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:48,830
know there's going to be a horse lobby

1318
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:52,520
that will be neighing at our windows or

1319
00:57:58,089 --> 00:57:55,730
something like that and they will be

1320
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:58,099
attacking the para cast for this all

1321
00:58:03,070 --> 00:58:01,040
because of his use of these words

1322
00:58:05,290 --> 00:58:03,080
oh well no actually if you look at the

1323
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:05,300
guest list other than a certain dr.

1324
00:58:10,359 --> 00:58:07,490
Greer and by the way on the forms we

1325
00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:10,369
take out the letter e and make it an

1326
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,300
apostrophe so it's GRE apostrophe our

1327
00:58:18,730 --> 00:58:15,440
that's a new way of referring to him

1328
00:58:21,010 --> 00:58:18,740
girl right if you do with the proper

1329
00:58:22,809 --> 00:58:21,020
girl I can have my dog record it my dog

1330
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:22,819
has a nice tenor bark

1331
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:26,209
so we think we could have my dog do it

1332
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:28,160
every time we mentioned that versus name

1333
00:58:33,939 --> 00:58:30,410
and a Linda Moulton Howe we could have

1334
00:58:38,650 --> 00:58:33,949
the sound of a cow mooing when we

1335
00:58:40,839 --> 00:58:38,660
mention her yeah okay that's it and she

1336
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:40,849
thinks of course that cattle mutilations

1337
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:43,249
are et but if you watch the episode of

1338
00:58:49,569 --> 00:58:46,910
Grimm on NBC cattle mutilations are done

1339
00:58:50,979 --> 00:58:49,579
by one of these weird creatures you know

1340
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,989
where they look like humans and their

1341
00:58:55,539 --> 00:58:53,119
heads morph into some kind of monster

1342
00:58:57,699 --> 00:58:55,549
that's who really did localizations that

1343
00:58:59,859 --> 00:58:57,709
sounds good I like that up that sound

1344
00:59:01,779 --> 00:58:59,869
like fun you know sounds like great just

1345
00:59:04,599 --> 00:59:01,789
what I want to stumble into in a dark

1346
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,609
past let's get back to this event in the

1347
00:59:09,459 --> 00:59:06,799
back to what's happening in the UFO

1348
00:59:13,329 --> 00:59:09,469
field and where it's going now I also

1349
00:59:15,339 --> 00:59:13,339
don't see here any major representatives

1350
00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:15,349
from MUFON except for some people who

1351
00:59:19,630 --> 00:59:17,630
were maybe regional directors or such

1352
00:59:23,049 --> 00:59:19,640
yeah it's very interesting you should

1353
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:23,059
mention that MUFON is is very noticeably

1354
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:26,890
absent of course George filer is here

1355
00:59:31,659 --> 00:59:29,119
Peter Davenport is here from the

1356
00:59:33,969 --> 00:59:31,669
national UFO Reporting Center I finally

1357
00:59:35,979 --> 00:59:33,979
got a chance to meet Peter we had a

1358
00:59:38,469 --> 00:59:35,989
really good talk he's very interested

1359
00:59:40,689 --> 00:59:38,479
and and jazzed to come on the show again

1360
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:40,699
I think he's been on before right years

1361
00:59:43,689 --> 00:59:42,529
ago he was on the show years ago we'll

1362
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:43,699
have him back we want to have Richard

1363
00:59:48,399 --> 00:59:46,609
Dolan back George filer well certainly

1364
00:59:51,219 --> 00:59:48,409
welcome him there are a number of

1365
00:59:53,140 --> 00:59:51,229
participants AJ for example whom we'd

1366
00:59:55,630 --> 00:59:53,150
have back in the near future especially

1367
00:59:58,239 --> 00:59:55,640
with developments in Brazil I think it's

1368
01:00:00,189 --> 00:59:58,249
time that we do talk to AJ again and get

1369
01:00:02,909 --> 01:00:00,199
a clarification obviously Peter Robbins

1370
01:00:06,699 --> 01:00:02,919
was there no doubt talking about

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01:00:09,789 --> 01:00:06,709
Rendlesham right yes and we do have a

1372
01:00:12,699 --> 01:00:09,799
bit of news from the Rendlesham case

1373
01:00:17,069 --> 01:00:12,709
okay of course you know John Burroughs

1374
01:00:20,739 --> 01:00:17,079
and Bros and Penniston were here and

1375
01:00:23,919 --> 01:00:20,749
they had their lawyer with them actually

1376
01:00:28,779 --> 01:00:23,929
at the witness table or the presenter

1377
01:00:30,339 --> 01:00:28,789
table during the portion of the second

1378
01:00:35,410 --> 01:00:30,349
day I think when when we were talking

1379
01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:35,420
about Ben waters and it sounds like they

1380
01:00:39,460 --> 01:00:37,220
and this is the some things came out

1381
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,470
about how the military and the

1382
01:00:46,690 --> 01:00:42,559
government has handled their involvement

1383
01:00:48,910 --> 01:00:46,700
in the original December 1980 events

1384
01:00:51,279 --> 01:00:48,920
which you know of course some of our new

1385
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:51,289
listeners the Bentwaters case or the

1386
01:00:57,339 --> 01:00:53,359
render some Forrester case occurred at

1387
01:01:01,900 --> 01:00:57,349
the sac a Strategic Air Command NATO

1388
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:01,910
base in at Bentwaters and it occurred

1389
01:01:07,690 --> 01:01:05,569
over a three night period John burrows

1390
01:01:09,279 --> 01:01:07,700
and Jim Penniston actually were involved

1391
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:09,289
in the first nine Burroughs was also

1392
01:01:13,630 --> 01:01:10,990
involved in the third night and

1393
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:13,640
Penniston actually touched a landed

1394
01:01:21,069 --> 01:01:18,890
object and received a download of what

1395
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:21,079
turned out to be binary code which is

1396
01:01:26,170 --> 01:01:23,450
very interesting but one thing that I

1397
01:01:30,220 --> 01:01:26,180
didn't know Jean and this is interesting

1398
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:30,230
is both men fairly soon after the event

1399
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:33,170
started suffering some fairly severe

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01:01:36,940 --> 01:01:34,089
health problems

1401
01:01:39,250 --> 01:01:36,950
well the Burroughs mentioned that on the

1402
01:01:41,799 --> 01:01:39,260
power cast he was on with Peter Robbins

1403
01:01:44,460 --> 01:01:41,809
a few years back right but I didn't I I

1404
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:44,470
think that they've kind of downplayed it

1405
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:48,490
over the years and to find you know

1406
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:51,710
talking with them myself actually uh the

1407
01:01:57,700 --> 01:01:54,799
night before the event I I found out

1408
01:02:01,870 --> 01:01:57,710
that some some pretty serious health

1409
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:01,880
issues have were very quick to ensue

1410
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:04,910
after after the event and in trying to

1411
01:02:11,769 --> 01:02:08,329
get health care and and get doctors to

1412
01:02:13,660 --> 01:02:11,779
help them out come to find that the

1413
01:02:16,390 --> 01:02:13,670
military has classified their medical

1414
01:02:18,670 --> 01:02:16,400
records now I didn't know that and I

1415
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:18,680
didn't also know that you know when when

1416
01:02:25,450 --> 01:02:22,130
John burrows for instance went to to a

1417
01:02:28,990 --> 01:02:25,460
physician and the physician tried to get

1418
01:02:32,289 --> 01:02:29,000
his medical records from the 1970-1980

1419
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:32,299
time period the VA told him that that

1420
01:02:36,809 --> 01:02:34,910
Penniston was not in or that girl's was

1421
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:36,819
not in the Air Force during those years

1422
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:40,250
so not only are they withholding medical

1423
01:02:45,339 --> 01:02:43,250
records they're actually denying that

1424
01:02:46,839 --> 01:02:45,349
the man was ever even in the Armed

1425
01:02:49,270 --> 01:02:46,849
Forces during the time period which

1426
01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:49,280
obviously he can he can prove

1427
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:52,280
and demonstrate that he was you know an

1428
01:02:58,090 --> 01:02:55,730
active military in active military

1429
01:02:59,710 --> 01:02:58,100
service during that time period but but

1430
01:03:01,870 --> 01:02:59,720
the fact that they've had they cannot

1431
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:01,880
and they have gone to both their

1432
01:03:07,780 --> 01:03:05,420
Senators in the case of burrows John Kyl

1433
01:03:10,750 --> 01:03:07,790
and John McCain they've they've done

1434
01:03:13,060 --> 01:03:10,760
everything they can to get their medical

1435
01:03:15,340 --> 01:03:13,070
records released so that they can get

1436
01:03:18,270 --> 01:03:15,350
proper health care and and this is

1437
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:18,280
outrageous that you would have to

1438
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:22,310
long-term veterans being treated in such

1439
01:03:29,290 --> 01:03:25,370
a tawdry in the almost criminal manner

1440
01:03:31,060 --> 01:03:29,300
to me that was a real eye-opener for me

1441
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:31,070
and and I think for others too

1442
01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:34,210
we're of course covering the citizens

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we've lived in this neighborhood for

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years we have an alarm system and all of

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our doors have dead bolts they kicked in

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our door and were in and out of our

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house in about five minutes the police

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arrived in about twenty minutes but they

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were long gone with our TV jewelry and

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my guns

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I kept thinking what if my family had

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been home the police officer said that

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more than 85% of break-ins aren't

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through a door and that deadbolts alone

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don't stop intruders the officer told me

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to go to easy armored net if we wanted

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so very close to the Citizen hearing on

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01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:15,600
disclosure which is five days of

1546
01:08:20,690 --> 01:08:18,660
hearings with ex members of Congress we

1547
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,700
have Chris O'Brien with gene Steinberg

1548
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:22,319
on the power cast I'm back at the home

1549
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:24,510
base and we're communicating with Chris

1550
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:27,600
from his hotel room and fortunately it's

1551
01:08:31,579 --> 01:08:29,460
a decent landline so we're getting

1552
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,589
pretty decent reproduction right so this

1553
01:08:36,260 --> 01:08:33,839
makes it good so you were talking here

1554
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:36,270
about the fact that people like John

1555
01:08:41,570 --> 01:08:38,730
Burroughs who served this country he

1556
01:08:45,380 --> 01:08:41,580
puts his life on the line he's involved

1557
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:45,390
in Rendlesham he's injured he doesn't

1558
01:08:48,620 --> 01:08:45,930
exist

1559
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:48,630
can you believe it I mean it's one thing

1560
01:08:54,650 --> 01:08:51,359
to you know ask these guys to be quiet

1561
01:08:56,900 --> 01:08:54,660
or to suggest that hey you know you look

1562
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,910
you know you're Patriots please don't

1563
01:09:02,180 --> 01:08:58,799
talk about this but it's another thing

1564
01:09:05,870 --> 01:09:02,190
to actually you know withhold your

1565
01:09:08,030 --> 01:09:05,880
medical records and when pressed to come

1566
01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:08,040
up with this cockamamie scenario that

1567
01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:10,140
you weren't even serving during the time

1568
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:11,910
period in question to me it's it's

1569
01:09:17,170 --> 01:09:14,010
absolutely it's criminal he would

1570
01:09:20,059 --> 01:09:17,180
obviously have the records for that

1571
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:20,069
records to prove that but it's just

1572
01:09:26,599 --> 01:09:22,290
getting it's it's the ability for a

1573
01:09:28,820 --> 01:09:26,609
doctor to to submit requisition forms

1574
01:09:32,329 --> 01:09:28,830
for medical records so with the Veterans

1575
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:32,339
Administration and to have that sort of

1576
01:09:38,690 --> 01:09:34,890
scenario to fight upstream against that

1577
01:09:40,490 --> 01:09:38,700
kind of response is inexcusable and this

1578
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:40,500
unfortunately is the kind of stuff we've

1579
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:42,330
had to put up with now where are they

1580
01:09:45,860 --> 01:09:43,650
going to do are they going to try to

1581
01:09:48,650 --> 01:09:45,870
take action against the government to

1582
01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:48,660
get a well is record I heard there was

1583
01:09:53,300 --> 01:09:50,460
going to be a press conference and some

1584
01:09:54,230 --> 01:09:53,310
sort of threat of a lawsuit was going to

1585
01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:54,240
be announced

1586
01:10:00,590 --> 01:09:57,360
I may be scooping all that information

1587
01:10:02,780 --> 01:10:00,600
that's fine no scoop but yeah I think

1588
01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:02,790
that because the lawyer was there

1589
01:10:09,169 --> 01:10:05,490
because they've they've they've run into

1590
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:09,179
some some some real serious

1591
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:11,489
you know push back by the government on

1592
01:10:16,219 --> 01:10:13,650
this whole thing I think I think that

1593
01:10:18,620 --> 01:10:16,229
there will be some sort of legal action

1594
01:10:21,140 --> 01:10:18,630
taken by them I mean come on

1595
01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:21,150
I mean release the guys medical records

1596
01:10:26,330 --> 01:10:23,880
so that you can demonstrate to your

1597
01:10:29,029 --> 01:10:26,340
doctor that you have a medical history

1598
01:10:32,810 --> 01:10:29,039
that shows after this particular event

1599
01:10:35,419 --> 01:10:32,820
you know some really serious probably

1600
01:10:36,890 --> 01:10:35,429
caused by radiations is pretty much what

1601
01:10:40,250 --> 01:10:36,900
I think is going on here at least

1602
01:10:43,279 --> 01:10:40,260
talking with both both men that object

1603
01:10:45,229 --> 01:10:43,289
was exhibiting some sort of intent was

1604
01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:45,239
writ was somehow radioactive but there

1605
01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:48,329
was some sort of real active energetic

1606
01:10:54,529 --> 01:10:50,729
event going on with that object and to

1607
01:10:57,290 --> 01:10:54,539
be in such close proximity trees in the

1608
01:10:59,959 --> 01:10:57,300
area where this thing landed ended up

1609
01:11:02,540 --> 01:10:59,969
becoming charred and there's all sorts

1610
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:02,550
of evidence that they were they were

1611
01:11:09,379 --> 01:11:05,369
impacted by by radiation from that

1612
01:11:11,719 --> 01:11:09,389
particular close encounter and for the

1613
01:11:14,629 --> 01:11:11,729
government or the military to try to

1614
01:11:17,299 --> 01:11:14,639
hide that fact by by withholding medical

1615
01:11:19,009 --> 01:11:17,309
records so that you can demonstrate you

1616
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:19,019
were in perfect health before something

1617
01:11:22,969 --> 01:11:22,079
happens and then your health immediately

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starts degrading

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I mean poor John Burroughs I think he

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01:11:31,939 --> 01:11:28,559
has you know he has a pacemaker and a

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01:11:33,739 --> 01:11:31,949
defibrillator already as a fairly young

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01:11:36,739 --> 01:11:33,749
man I mean I think these things were put

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in you know before he was 50 you know

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01:11:43,580 --> 01:11:40,260
both both guys have very interesting I

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01:11:46,759 --> 01:11:43,590
think who stayed I think for people to

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01:11:48,649 --> 01:11:46,769
help help them out with and they are not

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01:11:49,879 --> 01:11:48,659
happy about this and they are not happy

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01:11:52,250 --> 01:11:49,889
with the amount of attention that

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they've gotten from being you know kind

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of victimized by being participants in

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01:12:00,199 --> 01:11:56,909
the Rendlesham event they're not they

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01:12:01,790 --> 01:12:00,209
would never have wanted any sort of

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01:12:03,729 --> 01:12:01,800
publicity as soon as they get this

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01:12:07,219 --> 01:12:03,739
behind them they are going to disappear

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01:12:09,049 --> 01:12:07,229
there's talk of moving to South American

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01:12:11,899 --> 01:12:09,059
country to get out of this limelight

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01:12:14,259 --> 01:12:11,909
they're tired of all this I think John

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01:12:17,149 --> 01:12:14,269
Burroughs has moved to the to Sedona

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:17,159
which I didn't know and they mentioned

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01:12:22,910 --> 01:12:21,090
that there's been some real major major

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01:12:27,260 --> 01:12:22,920
UFO event in the Sedona

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01:12:28,610 --> 01:12:27,270
area in the last week or so which I find

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01:12:30,530 --> 01:12:28,620
very intriguing which I'm going to be

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01:12:32,930 --> 01:12:30,540
giving our America's listeners an update

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01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:32,940
on when I get back home and start

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01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:35,250
checking into this but I guess about the

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01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:37,140
time I left there was some sort of major

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01:12:42,340 --> 01:12:39,690
event that occurred in the Thunder

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01:12:44,750 --> 01:12:42,350
Mountain Sedona area which I need to

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01:12:47,870 --> 01:12:44,760
make some calls and do some digging on

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01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:47,880
that but you know the whole thing to me

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01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:51,420
is just another example of the

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01:12:59,690 --> 01:12:55,410
subterfuge and observation that the US

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01:13:01,880 --> 01:12:59,700
government continually presents to the

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01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:01,890
public when it comes to people that have

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01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:04,880
been involved in these types of events

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01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:07,500
it's it's like I said it's inexcusable

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01:13:11,900 --> 01:13:09,930
and it's it's almost criminal

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01:13:13,790 --> 01:13:11,910
I think if not criminal let's go into

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01:13:15,860 --> 01:13:13,800
some other events this was on Tuesday's

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01:13:17,570 --> 01:13:15,870
session April 30th when they talked

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01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:17,580
about Bentwaters but there was also

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01:13:23,210 --> 01:13:20,490
discussion of the people who were

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01:13:26,150 --> 01:13:23,220
involved in the episodes recounted in

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01:13:28,970 --> 01:13:26,160
Robert Hastings book and Robert Hastings

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01:13:32,210 --> 01:13:28,980
offered UFOs and nukes was not on the

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panel but they don't really know that is

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01:13:37,340 --> 01:13:34,380
curious but they did talk about nuclear

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01:13:39,620 --> 01:13:37,350
tampering where UFOs supposedly did

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01:13:42,980 --> 01:13:39,630
things in relation to nuclear

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01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:42,990
installations well we had a bit of a

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01:13:49,250 --> 01:13:45,510
scoop in this kudos to Stephen Bassett

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:49,260
we had two captains came forward for the

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01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:53,010
first time and and talked about events

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:56,640
that occurred in the in one case I think

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01:14:01,130 --> 01:13:58,530
the late sixties in another case in the

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:01,140
mid-70s where they were launched control

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01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:05,730
officers at IBM sites in you know the

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01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:10,080
northern tier now from Minot area those

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01:14:15,740 --> 01:14:12,810
bases and they recounted some very

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riveting testimony about events

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01:14:22,910 --> 01:14:19,890
including recordings that were taken at

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01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:22,920
the time of radio communications between

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01:14:27,890 --> 01:14:24,800
security teams that were going out

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01:14:30,230 --> 01:14:27,900
describing these objects that were that

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01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:30,240
we're rendering in one case up to 50

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01:14:36,290 --> 01:14:34,230
missiles were rendered inoperable and by

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01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:36,300
something that could only

1689
01:14:40,669 --> 01:14:38,150
be described as EMP pulse

1690
01:14:44,060 --> 01:14:40,679
electromagnetic pulse something like

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01:14:47,540 --> 01:14:44,070
that but not EMP he was some other type

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01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:47,550
of energetic event caused by these

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01:14:52,010 --> 01:14:49,320
objects that were hovering over these

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01:14:54,729 --> 01:14:52,020
sites so we have t new witnesses that

1695
01:14:59,299 --> 01:14:54,739
have come out and in gone public and

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01:15:03,020 --> 01:14:59,309
violated I guess security owes to some

1697
01:15:05,660 --> 01:15:03,030
degree and corroborated information that

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01:15:07,790 --> 01:15:05,670
their Bob Hastings in in Bob Salas have

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01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:07,800
already kind of hinted around out and

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01:15:14,359 --> 01:15:10,980
and provided supplemental witnesses and

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testimony for some pretty interesting

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events and we have reports of similar

1703
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things happen in Russia and back in the

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old Soviet Union where these very

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similar type of events occurred where

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objects objects would show up and and

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render inoperable missiles I wanted to

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hear about the event when the actual

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telemetry data was was changed that to

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me has always been rather frightening to

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01:15:47,299 --> 01:15:43,409
think that one of these objects could

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show up in instead of a site targeting

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01:15:51,530 --> 01:15:49,260
some foreign capital all of a sudden it

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targets your own capital or something by

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01:15:55,220 --> 01:15:53,159
changing the actual telemetry data I

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01:15:57,950 --> 01:15:55,230
have heard rumors of that being the case

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and wanted to incident so I wanted to

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hear about that but I didn't you know

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original movie Superman the movie in

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the launch codes of test nuclear

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missiles and what happened sure but

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hi this is nuclear physicist elector

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Stanton Friedman you are listening to

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the parrot case the gold standard a

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paranormal radio citizens hearing on

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disclosure Washington DC National Press

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Club you go to the site who do you see

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standing there clear as day

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Stephen Bassett on the site let's look

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at some of the other events here now we

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had hope to have a few guests here who

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are participating in these sessions you

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will hear them on the power cast in the

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weeks to come a lot of interesting

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01:21:35,710 --> 01:21:34,190
guests because even if this results in

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nothing it doesn't seem as if there's

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01:21:41,310 --> 01:21:38,240
been much major coverage a lot of things

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01:21:45,220 --> 01:21:41,320
going on okay there was a panel on

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01:21:47,950 --> 01:21:45,230
Wednesday about documents and I assume

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01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:47,960
with wood and Linda Moulton Howe and

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Stanton Friedman and grand Cameron it

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was about mj-12 a lot of it yeah and

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that was kind of a weak link I think in

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the in the chain of presentations dr.

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01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:03,340
Robert Wood and Stanton Friedman did a

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you know I think a fairly convincing job

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in terms of talking to these neophyte

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Congress people about the mj-12

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documents they did a fairly good job

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01:22:21,700 --> 01:22:19,130
convincing them that these documents

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were real I think anyone who has looked

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01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:25,550
into this whole scenario which of course

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feature bill Moore and Jamie and era and

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in the whole thirty five-millimeter

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photographs of these documents they did

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a pretty good job of convincing the the

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the Congress people that these documents

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are real I think the jury's been out for

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a long time on on the authenticity of

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many if not most of these documents it

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may be the perfect example of

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disinformation where you have real facts

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that are totally surrounded by by

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untruth but they were they made a very

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convincing case of course grant Cameron

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for

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that he's talked about already on the

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podcast in other places that sort of

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kind of point to the u.s. involvement in

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crash retrievals and analyzing supposed

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wreckage and even possibly alien bodies

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and this sort of thing again I think I

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think a lot of this is is really open to

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question I think that there's there are

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some real gems in there but it's really

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hard I think at times to separate wheat

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from chaff I I do think that they did a

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01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:47,150
good job they had plenty of time to

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present this information the format kind

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of held them back to a certain extent if

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these people do their homework I think

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they'll be able to come to some sort of

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01:24:04,740 --> 01:24:02,090
you know a point of personal clarity

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01:24:08,530 --> 01:24:04,750
about these about these controversial

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01:24:10,630 --> 01:24:08,540
documents whether they be mj-12

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or many of the other thousands of

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documents that have been slowly released

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over the years it's really difficult to

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as you know Jean and most of our

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listeners I think are aware it's very

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difficult to determine the authenticity

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of reproductions of documents they

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brought up you know bedside confessions

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the whole Roswell subject was was

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addressed now I wanted to mention one

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thing before you go into the Roswell

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section which was the afternoon on

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Wednesday and that is you'll see that

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Stanton Friedman who believes in mj-12

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01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:46,070
was in both the morning and afternoon

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:48,290
sessions on documents on Roswell

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but Kevin Randall who does not believe

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in mj-12 was not part of the morning

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session as if those who organized this

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convention this meeting didn't want to

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have disputing points of view they

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wanted to keep it consistent and that

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was I think a pretty astute way of

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setting up these sessions with people

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that that supply the most supportive

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01:25:19,859 --> 01:25:17,629
bent and an angle on

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particular subjects yeah kevin was not

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included in the mj-12 documents for

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obvious reasons he goes that was very

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Friedman and Randle basically dominating

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the presentation well what you want to

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do is you want to provide a unified

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front on a particular subject in to have

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have somebody that's doubtful or or

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01:25:43,299 --> 01:25:40,219
skeptical about a particular subject on

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a panel it's just going to be confusing

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I think to people who are being brought

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up to speed very quickly on these

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subjects these Congress people were

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supplied I think ahead of time with a

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certain amount of documentation but but

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quite frankly I mean you're given a huge

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pile of stuff there's only you can only

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be expected to you know to become an

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01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:05,570
instant expert to a certain degree I

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01:26:10,569 --> 01:26:08,239
think a lot of these Congress people are

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01:26:14,290 --> 01:26:10,579
are really out of their element I think

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they're overwhelmed yesterday it got a

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01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:16,099
little bit ridiculous when they'd be

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01:26:21,250 --> 01:26:19,280
asking the same question you know each

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01:26:24,369 --> 01:26:21,260
one would be asking the same question a

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01:26:28,089 --> 01:26:24,379
number of times not listening to the

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01:26:30,879 --> 01:26:28,099
answer not taking proper notes this is

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01:26:33,189 --> 01:26:30,889
so much the learning curve is so steep

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with this subject that it's very very

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difficult for people to sit in a room

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for seven hours and it's you know expect

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them to maintain a laser-like intensity

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of concentration and focus on these

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01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:46,729
subjects and they the ins and outs and

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01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:49,489
the details the end of the afternoon

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01:26:53,379 --> 01:26:50,840
you know the most of these folks are

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retired they're they're 60 or above an

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01:27:00,819 --> 01:26:58,399
age that's being kind and you know you

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can only expect them to be so focused

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for so long and I think they're doing a

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really good job they are really trying

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and that's one thing I must underscore

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here these Congress people are taken a

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01:27:19,299 --> 01:27:15,939
real risk by putting themselves you know

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putting themselves as targets in this

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particular process they are really doing

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a good job they are asking intelligent

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01:27:28,719 --> 01:27:26,149
questions but as the day goes on I think

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01:27:30,879 --> 01:27:28,729
they start to fade and so when you start

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01:27:33,729 --> 01:27:30,889
getting into subjects that are

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01:27:36,279 --> 01:27:33,739
nuanced towards the end of the day I

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01:27:39,099 --> 01:27:36,289
think they kind of stayed a little bit

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01:27:40,750 --> 01:27:39,109
but but I really do admire the fact that

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01:27:42,549 --> 01:27:40,760
they're able to stick with it

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01:27:46,389 --> 01:27:42,559
they're asking intelligent questions

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01:27:48,939 --> 01:27:46,399
they're not this is not some sort of

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01:27:51,969 --> 01:27:48,949
fluff exercise they're asking tough

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01:27:53,859 --> 01:27:51,979
questions or making people really you

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01:27:56,139 --> 01:27:53,869
know support their their claims and

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01:27:58,299 --> 01:27:56,149
support their assertions so that I I

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01:27:59,949 --> 01:27:58,309
really do respect the job that they're

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01:28:02,790 --> 01:27:59,959
doing and and you have to hand it to

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01:28:07,719 --> 01:28:02,800
them I mean this is you know this is uh

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01:28:09,729 --> 01:28:07,729
this might you know kind of ratchet down

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01:28:12,699 --> 01:28:09,739
the amount they get per hour to speak in

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01:28:15,250 --> 01:28:12,709
their districts at you know civic events

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01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:15,260
and stuff in the future yeah who knows I

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01:28:20,469 --> 01:28:18,169
this is a risky undertaking for them I

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01:28:21,969 --> 01:28:20,479
think you know I can think also of what

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01:28:24,459 --> 01:28:21,979
would happen if they decide to get back

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01:28:26,049 --> 01:28:24,469
in the political ring this could be a

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01:28:27,849 --> 01:28:26,059
career killer because all their

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01:28:29,859 --> 01:28:27,859
opponents will do is saying hey look at

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01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:29,869
these jokers someone hands them a twenty

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01:28:34,779 --> 01:28:32,570
thousand dollar check and they go attend

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01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:34,789
a UFO hearing they're talking about

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01:28:40,779 --> 01:28:39,050
flying saucers folks yeah they talk

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01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:40,789
about this early on and they said they

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01:28:46,329 --> 01:28:43,010
don't care they have a feeling that this

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01:28:48,429 --> 01:28:46,339
is a very important closeted subject in

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01:28:50,829 --> 01:28:48,439
the political arena and in this country

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01:28:52,689 --> 01:28:50,839
and they're they are willing they are

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:52,699
only doing this not for the money but

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01:28:58,119 --> 01:28:55,010
because they have a real interest in a

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01:29:01,540 --> 01:28:58,129
real curiosity about this all of them

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01:29:03,699 --> 01:29:01,550
express some sort of of compulsion to to

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01:29:06,449 --> 01:29:03,709
get to the truth which you you have to

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01:29:09,939 --> 01:29:06,459
hand it to him and I I did not catch any

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01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:09,949
artifice or any sort of you know kind of

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01:29:16,179 --> 01:29:13,010
buttering up the you know the attendees

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01:29:18,669 --> 01:29:16,189
I I really do get a sense that they are

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01:29:21,489 --> 01:29:18,679
genuinely interested in finding out the

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01:29:23,139 --> 01:29:21,499
truth here I think we all are on some

2011
01:29:24,729 --> 01:29:23,149
level those of us that have been

2012
01:29:27,790 --> 01:29:24,739
programmed by the government and by the

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01:29:30,699 --> 01:29:27,800
media to scoff and laugh and ridicule

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01:29:32,859 --> 01:29:30,709
and denigrate these subjects are just

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01:29:35,649 --> 01:29:32,869
you know they have their heads up their

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01:29:37,660 --> 01:29:35,659
butts or their heads in the sand to me

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01:29:40,609 --> 01:29:37,670
these are real true

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courageous people who have gone through

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careers in in public service and/or I

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01:29:48,020 --> 01:29:45,989
really do you think that they're trying

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01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:48,030
to do the right thing and one of them

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01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:50,090
said early on I think it was Senator

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01:29:55,939 --> 01:29:53,690
Gravelle he said look you know the

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$20,000 you know when you look at how

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01:30:00,560 --> 01:29:57,900
much time that we're putting in all the

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01:30:02,990 --> 01:30:00,570
prep time they're putting in 40 plus

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hours plus all the follow-up work of

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01:30:07,729 --> 01:30:04,619
trying to help draft you know

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01:30:09,890 --> 01:30:07,739
potentially draft resolutions and things

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they're not really getting paid that

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01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:11,400
much and when you think about it yeah

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01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:14,010
you know it makes sense to me that that

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the money just makes it you know

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justifiable to do but you have to have a

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real desire to learn about the subject

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to get involved with gene with Chris

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[Music]

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Chris O'Brien's on the scene and let's

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just get all the details out once again

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he went to the Citizen hearing on

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Ron James who was producing the

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streaming and Chris being an expert

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video guy was asked to participate and

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he did not have to take a loyalty oath

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to Steve acid is that correct sir that

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is correct because if he did I think

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we'd have an interesting problem there

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and interesting to none drew now as we

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01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:37,450
were talking about on Wednesday

2149
01:35:42,750 --> 01:35:39,280
afternoon session they were talking

2150
01:35:44,010 --> 01:35:42,760
about Roswell and it was curious as we

2151
01:35:47,610 --> 01:35:44,020
mention in the previous segment that we

2152
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:47,620
had Stanton Friedman with documents and

2153
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:50,050
with Roswell of course Friedman being a

2154
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:53,410
proponent of mj-12 and Kevin Randall who

2155
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:55,210
was on the Roswell panel but not on the

2156
01:35:58,650 --> 01:35:57,610
document panel being an opponent now we

2157
01:36:00,030 --> 01:35:58,660
understand they wanted to keep

2158
01:36:01,980 --> 01:36:00,040
politically correct they didn't want to

2159
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:01,990
have that back and forth dispute as to

2160
01:36:07,230 --> 01:36:05,290
Roswell any interesting tidbits or was

2161
01:36:09,930 --> 01:36:07,240
it the standard Roswell stuff we know

2162
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:09,940
and love or otherwise yeah it was a

2163
01:36:16,450 --> 01:36:12,610
standard standard fare I did get a

2164
01:36:19,870 --> 01:36:16,460
chance finally to meet Jesse Marcel

2165
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:19,880
and also his son Jesse Marcel the third

2166
01:36:26,620 --> 01:36:23,360
and Jesse juniors daughter Denise was

2167
01:36:29,530 --> 01:36:26,630
there I found the family the family

2168
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:29,540
thing was was interesting I didn't think

2169
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:32,560
it was really necessary to demonstrate

2170
01:36:40,030 --> 01:36:35,810
you know how wonderful a dad and

2171
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:40,040
grandfather Jesse Marcel was but it was

2172
01:36:46,750 --> 01:36:43,040
interesting to hear from Jesse's son of

2173
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:46,760
course doctor Jesse Marcel jr. who was

2174
01:36:50,590 --> 01:36:48,560
asked to actually which I didn't know

2175
01:36:53,380 --> 01:36:50,600
was actually asked to go

2176
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:53,390
I think the Afghanistan and and did it

2177
01:36:59,229 --> 01:36:56,239
to her a duty at 67 as a medical doctor

2178
01:37:01,630 --> 01:36:59,239
and got logged 200 hours of helicopter

2179
01:37:04,209 --> 01:37:01,640
flight time over there during the Afghan

2180
01:37:06,430 --> 01:37:04,219
war here you know it's hard to find good

2181
01:37:08,490 --> 01:37:06,440
people yeah he told us about that when

2182
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:08,500
we had him on the power cast so this is

2183
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:12,080
hard to hear that sure but of course Don

2184
01:37:16,990 --> 01:37:14,719
Schmidt was there and Kevin Randall as

2185
01:37:19,090 --> 01:37:17,000
we said you know I found it kind of

2186
01:37:21,010 --> 01:37:19,100
interesting that the Kevin Randall for

2187
01:37:25,450 --> 01:37:21,020
some reason he just attracted some

2188
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:25,460
little bit of pointed repartee with with

2189
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:26,960
some of the Congress people and he

2190
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:29,449
seemed uh he was kind of acting out a

2191
01:37:34,209 --> 01:37:31,010
little bit I think he felt like he was

2192
01:37:36,669 --> 01:37:34,219
being picked on for some reason I I

2193
01:37:40,209 --> 01:37:36,679
didn't really get why they were zeroing

2194
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:40,219
in on him of course the Roswell story is

2195
01:37:45,070 --> 01:37:42,890
so complex it's not something that you

2196
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:45,080
can do a quick study two and a half

2197
01:37:51,729 --> 01:37:48,800
hours and and really you know and get

2198
01:37:52,060 --> 01:37:51,739
totally up to speed on something like

2199
01:37:54,750 --> 01:37:52,070
that

2200
01:37:57,330 --> 01:37:54,760
there was nothing revelatory or

2201
01:38:00,970 --> 01:37:57,340
groundbreaking about that particular

2202
01:38:03,250 --> 01:38:00,980
part of the presentation on Wednesday

2203
01:38:05,830 --> 01:38:03,260
but but I think for people who maybe

2204
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:05,840
have heard about Roswell they don't know

2205
01:38:10,090 --> 01:38:07,489
the ins and outs I think they would have

2206
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:10,100
been surprised at some of the details

2207
01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:13,040
about the actual treatment of Mac Brazel

2208
01:38:19,330 --> 01:38:15,920
who was held incommunicado and under

2209
01:38:21,820 --> 01:38:19,340
kind of a quasi arrest or was detained

2210
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:21,830
for almost a week

2211
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:23,449
which I didn't know I thought it was

2212
01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:25,130
only a couple three days and it turned

2213
01:38:29,900 --> 01:38:26,719
out it was longer than that and that was

2214
01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:29,910
a real he was very irritated

2215
01:38:36,290 --> 01:38:33,840
and and told neighbors and others about

2216
01:38:38,930 --> 01:38:36,300
his displeasure I think some of the

2217
01:38:43,130 --> 01:38:38,940
revelations pertaining to people that

2218
01:38:45,500 --> 01:38:43,140
have come forward claiming that they in

2219
01:38:49,430 --> 01:38:45,510
it had knowledge of bodies being

2220
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:49,440
recovered from a secondary crash site

2221
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:51,330
from the primary crash site on the

2222
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:54,210
foster ranch I was unaware that there

2223
01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:56,010
were other people that were able to

2224
01:39:01,340 --> 01:38:58,410
corroborate that of course most of your

2225
01:39:03,950 --> 01:39:01,350
primary witnesses if not all by now with

2226
01:39:05,930 --> 01:39:03,960
a maybe just a few exceptions most of

2227
01:39:08,450 --> 01:39:05,940
these people have passed on

2228
01:39:11,330 --> 01:39:08,460
I think we're never really gonna get to

2229
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:11,340
the truth of Roswell I think the the

2230
01:39:16,790 --> 01:39:13,800
Congress people were fascinated and to

2231
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:16,800
have Jesse Jr there describing what it

2232
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:19,110
was like as an 11 year old to walk into

2233
01:39:25,220 --> 01:39:22,290
the kitchen and have this debris arrayed

2234
01:39:27,140 --> 01:39:25,230
on the kitchen floor by his dad they did

2235
01:39:30,380 --> 01:39:27,150
kind of scratch their head and said well

2236
01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:30,390
why did he do that you know you know the

2237
01:39:35,450 --> 01:39:32,910
guy was you know the head of

2238
01:39:37,850 --> 01:39:35,460
intelligence that for the 509 there in

2239
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:37,860
Roswell which was one of the most key

2240
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:41,010
intelligence positioned in the the Army

2241
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:43,440
Air Force at that time I mean you know

2242
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:46,770
it was the you know the only atomic

2243
01:39:53,150 --> 01:39:49,440
bomber wing in existence at the time and

2244
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:53,160
to have you know Marcel come in and

2245
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:54,810
display the wreckage out on the kitchen

2246
01:39:59,600 --> 01:39:57,050
floor for his wife and son to see

2247
01:40:02,480 --> 01:39:59,610
something about that kind of a strange

2248
01:40:05,060 --> 01:40:02,490
it's always been strange to me because

2249
01:40:07,490 --> 01:40:05,070
if he had the sense that this was

2250
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:07,500
anything significant in the sense of a

2251
01:40:12,530 --> 01:40:09,930
spaceship why would he have done that

2252
01:40:15,410 --> 01:40:12,540
well plus I always thought that Jesse

2253
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:15,420
jr. was able to handle the material and

2254
01:40:21,410 --> 01:40:18,330
inside do the crumpled-up and then jump

2255
01:40:23,930 --> 01:40:21,420
back to its original form or state he

2256
01:40:26,330 --> 01:40:23,940
never saw that well I've got a different

2257
01:40:28,250 --> 01:40:26,340
impression when he was on the power cast

2258
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:28,260
I'll ask our listeners to go back

2259
01:40:33,380 --> 01:40:30,210
through our archives and listen to Jesse

2260
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:33,390
Marcel jr. and see if he didn't touch

2261
01:40:39,140 --> 01:40:36,000
that material well he may have touched

2262
01:40:41,890 --> 01:40:39,150
it but he never saw it do it's fantastic

2263
01:40:46,990 --> 01:40:45,700
revert back to its original state in

2264
01:40:49,570 --> 01:40:47,000
other words crumpled it up and then it

2265
01:40:51,670 --> 01:40:49,580
springs back to its shape he's dead he

2266
01:40:54,940 --> 01:40:51,680
didn't see that that's what was the

2267
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:54,950
influence of the scenes in the Batman

2268
01:41:00,190 --> 01:40:57,290
movies from Christopher Nolan about the

2269
01:41:03,460 --> 01:41:00,200
memory cloth right Batman's cape was

2270
01:41:05,740 --> 01:41:03,470
memory cloth yeah well I was surprised I

2271
01:41:07,540 --> 01:41:05,750
thought that he did see that I thought

2272
01:41:09,070 --> 01:41:07,550
that he was involved in trying to burn

2273
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:09,080
it and trying to cut it and all that

2274
01:41:13,420 --> 01:41:11,810
based on my you know recollection of

2275
01:41:16,660 --> 01:41:13,430
course I was working I was really

2276
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:16,670
involved in in I was multitasking

2277
01:41:21,250 --> 01:41:18,650
big-time and of course Roswell is one of

2278
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:21,260
those subjects and I tend to my eyes

2279
01:41:25,930 --> 01:41:23,810
gloss over and I tend to kind of tune

2280
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:25,940
out but I kind of remember hearing him

2281
01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:28,330
say well no actually I didn't see that

2282
01:41:33,820 --> 01:41:31,040
that was surprising to me he did say

2283
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:33,830
however that the i-beams would the kind

2284
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:35,690
of pseudo hieroglyphics were very

2285
01:41:40,510 --> 01:41:38,510
impressive to him and he did mention how

2286
01:41:42,690 --> 01:41:40,520
lightweight and balsa wood like they

2287
01:41:46,420 --> 01:41:42,700
were but impervious to any sort of

2288
01:41:48,700 --> 01:41:46,430
attempt to bend fold and spindle and

2289
01:41:50,620 --> 01:41:48,710
mutilate them he did mention that they

2290
01:41:54,010 --> 01:41:50,630
seem to be impervious to any sort of

2291
01:41:56,380 --> 01:41:54,020
attempt to - he said his dad brought out

2292
01:41:59,830 --> 01:41:56,390
a knife and tried to carve it and was

2293
01:42:02,080 --> 01:41:59,840
unable to but I was surprised to hear

2294
01:42:04,300 --> 01:42:02,090
that the memory the memory metal if you

2295
01:42:08,730 --> 01:42:04,310
want to call it that was not he didn't

2296
01:42:11,770 --> 01:42:08,740
see it under those types of attempts to

2297
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:11,780
you know somehow Mar it or whatever burn

2298
01:42:17,860 --> 01:42:15,530
it cut it that sort of thing that was a

2299
01:42:20,260 --> 01:42:17,870
little surprising to me another thing

2300
01:42:22,090 --> 01:42:20,270
that was interesting is how you know I

2301
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:22,100
totally forgotten about how Stanton

2302
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:25,010
Friedman had actually found him and in

2303
01:42:32,260 --> 01:42:29,290
the serendipitous occasion of actually

2304
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:32,270
rediscovering Marcel when he was in

2305
01:42:38,890 --> 01:42:35,450
Louisiana he was going to I think for a

2306
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:38,900
radio interview and he was stood up for

2307
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:40,730
something I don't remember the details

2308
01:42:44,050 --> 01:42:42,560
but someone said oh you're interested in

2309
01:42:46,510 --> 01:42:44,060
that subject well there's a guy here you

2310
01:42:48,580 --> 01:42:46,520
should talk to and and lo and behold it

2311
01:42:50,980 --> 01:42:48,590
turns out to be a retired Jesse Marcel

2312
01:42:53,710 --> 01:42:50,990
which I found that fascinating the very

2313
01:42:56,830 --> 01:42:53,720
serendipitous kind of synchronistic

2314
01:42:59,350 --> 01:42:56,840
you know coincidental meeting original

2315
01:43:01,930 --> 01:42:59,360
meeting between Friedman and Marcel to

2316
01:43:03,990 --> 01:43:01,940
me was fascinating to hear to rehear

2317
01:43:07,810 --> 01:43:04,000
some of these details which I haven't

2318
01:43:10,270 --> 01:43:07,820
you know I haven't revisited in in you

2319
01:43:12,130 --> 01:43:10,280
know decades I mean gosh I it's been 20

2320
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:12,140
years since I've really paid much

2321
01:43:17,170 --> 01:43:15,170
attention to Roswell to me it just kind

2322
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:17,180
of makes me develop this weird kind of

2323
01:43:25,380 --> 01:43:19,730
rash and I just can't find the right

2324
01:43:29,500 --> 01:43:26,710
you know

2325
01:43:31,180 --> 01:43:29,510
okay well seeking of hives did anything

2326
01:43:35,260 --> 01:43:31,190
that you heard getting all this

2327
01:43:38,530 --> 01:43:35,270
information summarized in an hour or two

2328
01:43:41,470 --> 01:43:38,540
any if it convinced you more about

2329
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:41,480
Roswell being a spaceship as opposed to

2330
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:44,480
the balloon or the test aircraft theory

2331
01:43:52,750 --> 01:43:47,710
well I think Kevin Randle did a really

2332
01:43:54,370 --> 01:43:52,760
good job in kind of refuting any sort of

2333
01:43:56,890 --> 01:43:54,380
balloon story and they did a good job of

2334
01:43:59,920 --> 01:43:56,900
presenting the crashed you know the the

2335
01:44:02,530 --> 01:43:59,930
test dummy scenario where these things

2336
01:44:06,130 --> 01:44:02,540
you know they hadn't really even been

2337
01:44:09,250 --> 01:44:06,140
used for five years after Roswell in the

2338
01:44:12,780 --> 01:44:09,260
way that the the material that would be

2339
01:44:15,730 --> 01:44:12,790
in a crash of a mogul balloon train

2340
01:44:18,970 --> 01:44:15,740
would fit inside a car and instead of

2341
01:44:21,550 --> 01:44:18,980
being spread across you know quite an

2342
01:44:24,580 --> 01:44:21,560
extensively in wide area I think they

2343
01:44:27,010 --> 01:44:24,590
did a good job presenting the kind of

2344
01:44:29,620 --> 01:44:27,020
information that would refute any sort

2345
01:44:33,550 --> 01:44:29,630
of official Air Force version of either

2346
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:33,560
a weather balloon and then be a secret

2347
01:44:39,010 --> 01:44:36,170
weather balloon and then see a super

2348
01:44:40,540 --> 01:44:39,020
secret weather balloon train they did a

2349
01:44:44,290 --> 01:44:40,550
really good job of showing how the

2350
01:44:47,170 --> 01:44:44,300
government really fumbled this whole

2351
01:44:50,650 --> 01:44:47,180
scenario of trying to to explain away

2352
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:50,660
the event and but one thing that really

2353
01:44:57,930 --> 01:44:53,570
bothered me was that they did not and

2354
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:57,940
have not throughout this entire exercise

2355
01:45:03,670 --> 01:45:01,280
talked about exotic technology it's been

2356
01:45:05,860 --> 01:45:03,680
hinted out here and they're saying well

2357
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:05,870
we may have things that can do some

2358
01:45:10,510 --> 01:45:07,370
pretty incredible

2359
01:45:12,490 --> 01:45:10,520
maneuvers been rich was mentioned at one

2360
01:45:14,230 --> 01:45:12,500
point you know we have the technology to

2361
01:45:17,050 --> 01:45:14,240
take e.t back to the stars

2362
01:45:20,290 --> 01:45:17,060
we'll go into that and so much more as

2363
01:45:22,330 --> 01:45:20,300
we recount the citizens hearing on

2364
01:45:30,310 --> 01:45:22,340
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para cast the gold standard of

2424
01:48:04,170 --> 01:47:55,300
paranormal radio and now here's Jane

2425
01:48:06,150 --> 01:48:04,180
Steinberg with gene and Kris we're doing

2426
01:48:09,480 --> 01:48:06,160
the countdown here for the citizens

2427
01:48:11,190 --> 01:48:09,490
hearing on disclosure where loads of

2428
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:11,200
witnesses most of which were really

2429
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:13,600
credible witnesses presenting evidence

2430
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:15,760
about what's going on and one of the

2431
01:48:19,260 --> 01:48:17,290
things that chris said before we did the

2432
01:48:21,660 --> 01:48:19,270
break disappointed that they didn't get

2433
01:48:24,180 --> 01:48:21,670
into exotic technology or the

2434
01:48:26,610 --> 01:48:24,190
possibility that's ours but that works

2435
01:48:29,460 --> 01:48:26,620
against the meme of the entire event

2436
01:48:32,370 --> 01:48:29,470
which is its et it's all et and nothing

2437
01:48:34,290 --> 01:48:32,380
but et well again I don't think that

2438
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:34,300
that was the name I think it's inferred

2439
01:48:40,530 --> 01:48:37,330
but not stated I think a lot of this is

2440
01:48:41,580 --> 01:48:40,540
like well it's so fantastic what else

2441
01:48:45,180 --> 01:48:41,590
could it be

2442
01:48:47,610 --> 01:48:45,190
Antonio who næss much to his credit at

2443
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:47,620
any opportunity that he could and this

2444
01:48:53,070 --> 01:48:50,110
was four or five six times he would

2445
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:53,080
remind the Congress people look we don't

2446
01:48:59,100 --> 01:48:56,400
know if this is off planet if it's truly

2447
01:49:02,610 --> 01:48:59,110
extraterrestrial this could be some

2448
01:49:05,370 --> 01:49:02,620
other manifestation that has a fantastic

2449
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,380
explanation but is more mundane could be

2450
01:49:10,170 --> 01:49:07,600
time travel it could be altered

2451
01:49:12,450 --> 01:49:10,180
terrestrial metatarsals those terms have

2452
01:49:14,010 --> 01:49:12,460
not been mentioned when when one of the

2453
01:49:16,020 --> 01:49:14,020
Congress people said well if it's not

2454
01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:16,030
extraterrestrials if it's not that type

2455
01:49:21,090 --> 01:49:19,030
of answer what could it be

2456
01:49:23,010 --> 01:49:21,100
and I expected someone to say well

2457
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:23,020
there's a term called Olsen terrestrials

2458
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:25,210
or crypto terrestrials which means it's

2459
01:49:30,330 --> 01:49:27,850
another tenant in the building here on

2460
01:49:32,459 --> 01:49:30,340
earth or it could be meta terrestrials

2461
01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:32,469
which is some sort of dementia

2462
01:49:37,229 --> 01:49:35,350
possibly time based thing nobody led

2463
01:49:39,450 --> 01:49:37,239
them through the terminology in that

2464
01:49:41,729 --> 01:49:39,460
sense these things were mentioned in

2465
01:49:44,610 --> 01:49:41,739
passing but given very short shrift

2466
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:44,620
there was no emphasis there was no

2467
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:46,960
diving in well let's talk about that

2468
01:49:51,300 --> 01:49:49,449
let's talk about the manifestation of

2469
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:51,310
collective the collective unconscious

2470
01:49:54,630 --> 01:49:52,930
let's talk about some sort of

2471
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:54,640
evolutionary imperative

2472
01:49:59,729 --> 01:49:57,250
maybe we're somehow co-creating these

2473
01:50:01,380 --> 01:49:59,739
things can pull us off planet I didn't

2474
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:01,390
hear any out-of-the-box

2475
01:50:08,030 --> 01:50:04,210
creative thinking going on everything

2476
01:50:11,939 --> 01:50:08,040
did tend to have that unspoken inference

2477
01:50:14,850 --> 01:50:11,949
oftentimes of extraterrestrials and and

2478
01:50:17,310 --> 01:50:14,860
the foreign the South American people

2479
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:17,320
were you know more I think readily able

2480
01:50:24,450 --> 01:50:21,850
to and and willing to go the eth or

2481
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:24,460
extra-terrestrial hypothesis route the

2482
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:27,489
one Colonel who had the incredibly

2483
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:31,210
riveting account of of attacking this

2484
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:33,730
one object was being tasked with going

2485
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:35,410
up and shooting the thing down and and

2486
01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:37,410
the thing just toyed with him a

2487
01:50:45,450 --> 01:50:40,960
incredibly riveting account he was very

2488
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:45,460
unwilling to to state that it was aliens

2489
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:48,130
he said look you know all I know is this

2490
01:50:53,580 --> 01:50:50,410
thing outperformed my aircraft there

2491
01:50:55,620 --> 01:50:53,590
were no visible wings there was no

2492
01:50:58,320 --> 01:50:55,630
engine there was no antennas there was

2493
01:51:00,450 --> 01:50:58,330
no windows there was no any sort of

2494
01:51:03,660 --> 01:51:00,460
details and he got very close to it he

2495
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:03,670
said I'm not willing to say what it was

2496
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:06,250
all I know is that when I fired 25

2497
01:51:11,490 --> 01:51:09,130
centimeter on cannon fire at it it it

2498
01:51:14,580 --> 01:51:11,500
had no effect and I couldn't see what

2499
01:51:17,070 --> 01:51:14,590
happened to my my ordnance yeah I didn't

2500
01:51:18,930 --> 01:51:17,080
see any sort of effect and you know when

2501
01:51:21,090 --> 01:51:18,940
you're firing 30 millimeter cannon fire

2502
01:51:23,729 --> 01:51:21,100
at something and at close range 64

2503
01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:23,739
rounds he said you would expect some

2504
01:51:28,830 --> 01:51:26,080
sort of you know sparks or the

2505
01:51:30,630 --> 01:51:28,840
explosions or something and Senator Mike

2506
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:30,640
Gravel said will could have been a

2507
01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:33,010
hologram I and I and I thought to myself

2508
01:51:38,250 --> 01:51:35,440
good question could it have been a

2509
01:51:39,870 --> 01:51:38,260
hologram and you know the colonel didn't

2510
01:51:42,150 --> 01:51:39,880
waste much time thinking about you said

2511
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:42,160
nope I got a look at it from all

2512
01:51:45,630 --> 01:51:44,800
different angles I saw it from all sides

2513
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,640
and there was

2514
01:51:49,590 --> 01:51:47,440
no way that that could have been a

2515
01:51:52,530 --> 01:51:49,600
hologram that that was a real object

2516
01:51:54,780 --> 01:51:52,540
that was there it was taking up you know

2517
01:51:57,930 --> 01:51:54,790
it was taking up space in the sky

2518
01:52:00,810 --> 01:51:57,940
basically and he was baffled by how that

2519
01:52:04,290 --> 01:52:00,820
thing was able to in one of the other

2520
01:52:08,100 --> 01:52:04,300
investigators words absorb the rounds so

2521
01:52:10,730 --> 01:52:08,110
I I found that very fascinating and I am

2522
01:52:14,010 --> 01:52:10,740
the the congresspeople did mention how

2523
01:52:18,980 --> 01:52:14,020
they were very very impressed with his

2524
01:52:21,450 --> 01:52:18,990
ability to be very conservative in his

2525
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:21,460
recounting of the event and being very

2526
01:52:28,140 --> 01:52:26,170
objective about it but basically he was

2527
01:52:30,060 --> 01:52:28,150
unwilling to say that this was

2528
01:52:32,730 --> 01:52:30,070
extraterrestrial technology everybody

2529
01:52:34,490 --> 01:52:32,740
else kind of said it for him and at one

2530
01:52:38,670 --> 01:52:34,500
point they asked one of the other

2531
01:52:41,220 --> 01:52:38,680
investigators to to say what it could be

2532
01:52:42,810 --> 01:52:41,230
and if he agreed he would not his head

2533
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:42,820
well this is a very interesting moment

2534
01:52:50,340 --> 01:52:48,490
and he never did it not his head there's

2535
01:52:52,710 --> 01:52:50,350
been a couple of really cool little mini

2536
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:52,720
dramatic moments over the course of four

2537
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:54,370
days and that was one of them definitely

2538
01:52:59,370 --> 01:52:57,010
I really did find that intriguing now

2539
01:53:01,380 --> 01:52:59,380
does it look to you before we go on as

2540
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:01,390
if the former members of Congress did

2541
01:53:06,090 --> 01:53:03,130
actual research now the hologram

2542
01:53:09,420 --> 01:53:06,100
reference from senator Gravelle formerly

2543
01:53:11,540 --> 01:53:09,430
of alaska that was intriguing but did it

2544
01:53:13,890 --> 01:53:11,550
seem as if the others had also done

2545
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:13,900
homework or at least had some passing

2546
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:15,760
knowledge of what to talk about I I

2547
01:53:20,430 --> 01:53:18,730
think in a limited way yeah gene I I do

2548
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:20,440
think that there I mean it we were

2549
01:53:24,420 --> 01:53:22,660
talking about people these are and you

2550
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:24,430
know for the most part most of them are

2551
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:27,850
I think fairly well first and in basic

2552
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:30,730
science with a couple of exceptions who

2553
01:53:37,980 --> 01:53:34,090
shall go unnamed I I don't really have a

2554
01:53:40,380 --> 01:53:37,990
sense that they did too much research

2555
01:53:43,410 --> 01:53:40,390
and getting themselves up to speed

2556
01:53:45,150 --> 01:53:43,420
beforehand and if they did they're

2557
01:53:47,490 --> 01:53:45,160
hiding it very well and they're just

2558
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:47,500
kind of trying to play dumb trying to

2559
01:53:52,140 --> 01:53:49,930
make people really sort of spell it out

2560
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:52,150
for them I think they've done a good job

2561
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:54,910
in making people really cut to the chase

2562
01:53:59,580 --> 01:53:58,000
and educate them as well as inform them

2563
01:54:02,640 --> 01:53:59,590
about the subject

2564
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:02,650
I think in hats off to them I think

2565
01:54:08,220 --> 01:54:05,530
they've done a good job in making people

2566
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:08,230
kind of dumb down their presentations

2567
01:54:13,109 --> 01:54:10,570
not assume that anybody knows anything

2568
01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:13,119
and really spell it out and that way it

2569
01:54:18,089 --> 01:54:15,520
makes people really choose their words

2570
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:18,099
carefully if they only have two or three

2571
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:21,760
minutes to make a series of points it

2572
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:25,290
really made people cut to the chase and

2573
01:54:32,669 --> 01:54:29,530
really speak in very specific language

2574
01:54:35,010 --> 01:54:32,679
and in very accurate language and this

2575
01:54:37,620 --> 01:54:35,020
this has really been I think this is

2576
01:54:39,300 --> 01:54:37,630
this is a very interesting format for

2577
01:54:42,060 --> 01:54:39,310
this type of subject matter to be

2578
01:54:45,180 --> 01:54:42,070
discussed you don't have time to go into

2579
01:54:48,330 --> 01:54:45,190
these long-winded you know explanations

2580
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:48,340
ala Linda Howe or in a less away like a

2581
01:54:52,500 --> 01:54:50,650
Steven Greer some people just love to

2582
01:54:55,740 --> 01:54:52,510
hear the sound of their voice and they

2583
01:54:58,800 --> 01:54:55,750
love hear themselves pontificating they

2584
01:55:02,010 --> 01:54:58,810
love those long dramatic pauses and they

2585
01:55:04,859 --> 01:55:02,020
slow kind of delivery everybody had you

2586
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:04,869
know it was clipping along and really

2587
01:55:09,060 --> 01:55:07,090
having to state a lot of information in

2588
01:55:12,930 --> 01:55:09,070
a short period of time so it forced

2589
01:55:16,859 --> 01:55:12,940
people to really be straight concise on

2590
01:55:20,879 --> 01:55:16,869
on target on point and and with very

2591
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:20,889
little wasted verbiage shall we say no

2592
01:55:25,379 --> 01:55:22,510
it sounds like it was a quite a

2593
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:25,389
fascinating event now in terms of the

2594
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:27,130
questioning and you said you know they

2595
01:55:30,540 --> 01:55:29,050
sounded like they were handling

2596
01:55:34,740 --> 01:55:30,550
themselves well the members of Congress

2597
01:55:36,359 --> 01:55:34,750
any pointed incidents where they try to

2598
01:55:38,250 --> 01:55:36,369
rough somebody up and they're

2599
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:38,260
questioning well like I said Kevin

2600
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:41,170
Randle for some reason has a habit of of

2601
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:45,040
he just kind of seems a little at times

2602
01:55:50,939 --> 01:55:48,250
he's being Kevin Randleman Kevin Randle

2603
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:50,949
he's abrupt he's he's kind of offhand

2604
01:55:56,189 --> 01:55:53,050
about things he just has kind of a

2605
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:56,199
brittle sort of personality and and I

2606
01:56:01,800 --> 01:55:59,440
saw him really you know pick up on that

2607
01:56:04,260 --> 01:56:01,810
and and kind of peck at him a little bit

2608
01:56:05,459 --> 01:56:04,270
and he mentioned to me after he goes I

2609
01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:05,469
don't know why they were picking on me

2610
01:56:10,020 --> 01:56:07,090
he know and I said well Kevin you're

2611
01:56:11,939 --> 01:56:10,030
covered you know so you know I didn't

2612
01:56:13,330 --> 01:56:11,949
say that that's what I wanted to say I

2613
01:56:17,110 --> 01:56:13,340
said something a little bit

2614
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:17,120
less provocative than that I said well

2615
01:56:21,460 --> 01:56:20,000
you know I guess what can you do you

2616
01:56:23,500 --> 01:56:21,470
know I mean he would throw himself back

2617
01:56:25,810 --> 01:56:23,510
in his chair and be a little bit overly

2618
01:56:29,200 --> 01:56:25,820
dramatic about how he would respond to

2619
01:56:30,910 --> 01:56:29,210
certain admonishments and you know for

2620
01:56:35,470 --> 01:56:30,920
the most part I think everybody has

2621
01:56:38,830 --> 01:56:35,480
really maintained a very polite serious

2622
01:56:43,150 --> 01:56:38,840
decorum I think that there's been a lot

2623
01:56:47,500 --> 01:56:43,160
of real good repartee I think people

2624
01:56:51,100 --> 01:56:47,510
have come extremely prepared I haven't

2625
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:51,110
seen anybody get up there and and not

2626
01:56:55,900 --> 01:56:53,690
represent their particular point of view

2627
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:55,910
or the subject matter in a way that

2628
01:57:00,010 --> 01:56:57,530
would would be embarrassing for

2629
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:00,020
themselves or the field I think our

2630
01:57:07,420 --> 01:57:03,920
foreign folks that have come up from

2631
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:07,430
South America the Chinese guys

2632
01:57:15,820 --> 01:57:10,250
scientists that showed up was extremely

2633
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:15,830
good he really showed and and I think a

2634
01:57:21,070 --> 01:57:17,810
lot of people may have been surprised at

2635
01:57:24,340 --> 01:57:21,080
the amount of interest in China that is

2636
01:57:28,630 --> 01:57:24,350
there for for this subject in the amount

2637
01:57:31,930 --> 01:57:28,640
of work that Chinese civilian ethology

2638
01:57:36,620 --> 01:57:31,940
is engaged in with Jean and Chris you're

2639
01:57:40,550 --> 01:57:38,050
[Music]

2640
01:57:42,830 --> 01:57:40,560
don't complain about your cable bill

2641
01:57:44,990 --> 01:57:42,840
going up and up and up do something

2642
01:57:48,410 --> 01:57:45,000
about it grab a pencil and jot down this

2643
01:57:50,870 --> 01:57:48,420
special number 1 877 beat 0 for my TV

2644
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the more cable TV rates go up the better

2645
01:57:55,220 --> 01:57:53,820
digital satellite TV looks so disabled

2646
01:57:58,220 --> 01:57:55,230
the cable and get more of your favorite

2647
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2648
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2649
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eight zero for my TV right now to sign

2650
01:58:07,070 --> 01:58:04,140
up for packages starting as low as

2651
01:58:09,260 --> 01:58:07,080
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2652
01:58:12,650 --> 01:58:09,270
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2653
01:58:14,570 --> 01:58:12,660
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2654
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2655
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2656
01:58:21,530 --> 01:58:18,870
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2657
01:58:22,430 --> 01:58:21,540
seven eight zero for my TV so what are

2658
01:58:24,170 --> 01:58:22,440
you waiting for

2659
01:58:25,940 --> 01:58:24,180
pull out your major credit or debit card

2660
01:58:28,250 --> 01:58:25,950
call one eight seven seven eight zero

2661
01:58:30,860 --> 01:58:28,260
for my TV one eighty seven seven eight

2662
01:58:39,380 --> 01:58:30,870
zero for my TV disabled the cable cut

2663
01:58:40,730 --> 01:58:39,390
cost and get more have you ever felt

2664
01:58:42,170 --> 01:58:40,740
like the United States government knows

2665
01:58:44,150 --> 01:58:42,180
way too much about your financial

2666
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:44,160
affairs I continue to hear stories about

2667
01:58:48,830 --> 01:58:46,560
property seizures frozen bank accounts

2668
01:58:50,570 --> 01:58:48,840
confiscation of stocks and bonds it

2669
01:58:52,130 --> 01:58:50,580
makes me wonder if the US citizen will

2670
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:52,140
ever again have the right to life

2671
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:54,290
liberty and the pursuit of happiness

2672
01:58:58,040 --> 01:58:56,400
unfortunately with the drug and money

2673
01:59:00,830 --> 01:58:58,050
laundering Act the IRS Revenue Ruling

2674
01:59:02,180 --> 01:59:00,840
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talking about the citizens hearing on

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disclosure and the subtitle is if

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Congress won't do its job the people

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will and of course it's about having X

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members of Congress congressman the

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Senator Mike Gravel former senator from

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Alaska attending the session and making

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it like a faux hearing for Congress you

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02:02:28,649 --> 02:02:25,650
were mentioning of course the session on

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Thursday where they had members of the

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foreign community someone from China

2742
02:02:35,489 --> 02:02:32,289
pointing out there's a lot of civilian

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02:02:39,020 --> 02:02:35,499
interest in UFOs in China tell us more

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02:02:41,339 --> 02:02:39,030
well the largest civilian UFO

2745
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:41,349
investigative group is in China and the

2746
02:02:46,140 --> 02:02:43,690
last I he didn't mention an actual

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02:02:48,209 --> 02:02:46,150
membership number but I remember reading

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02:02:51,299 --> 02:02:48,219
an article that they have over a million

2749
02:02:53,189 --> 02:02:51,309
members in this one particular group and

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02:02:54,959 --> 02:02:53,199
there are other auxilary groups around

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02:02:58,169 --> 02:02:54,969
the country that are affiliated with the

2752
02:03:00,419 --> 02:02:58,179
parent organization the questions were

2753
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:00,429
asked about the the military and the

2754
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:03,010
government's involvement and the feeling

2755
02:03:08,129 --> 02:03:05,650
that I got from his responses which were

2756
02:03:11,129 --> 02:03:08,139
measured I must say he was very careful

2757
02:03:13,229 --> 02:03:11,139
how he said what he said and he didn't

2758
02:03:15,689 --> 02:03:13,239
really answer a few questions in the way

2759
02:03:17,609 --> 02:03:15,699
I think people wanted him to but

2760
02:03:22,469 --> 02:03:17,619
basically what he's saying is this is a

2761
02:03:24,419 --> 02:03:22,479
subject that is extremely attractive to

2762
02:03:26,850 --> 02:03:24,429
people's curiosity in the country and

2763
02:03:30,540 --> 02:03:26,860
the government does not stand in the way

2764
02:03:33,689 --> 02:03:30,550
in fact the government courts people's

2765
02:03:35,699 --> 02:03:33,699
interest in this subject to as unpaid

2766
02:03:37,589 --> 02:03:35,709
intelligence assets I would imagine they

2767
02:03:40,140 --> 02:03:37,599
they want to know what people are seeing

2768
02:03:42,060 --> 02:03:40,150
there they do monitor these

2769
02:03:45,149 --> 02:03:42,070
organizations they don't get in the way

2770
02:03:49,020 --> 02:03:45,159
it seems like the government is somewhat

2771
02:03:51,449 --> 02:03:49,030
more forthcoming in willing to share

2772
02:03:53,819 --> 02:03:51,459
certain information with the civilian

2773
02:03:57,390 --> 02:03:53,829
groups there there doesn't seem to be

2774
02:03:58,830 --> 02:03:57,400
the institutionalized ridicule and scorn

2775
02:04:01,290 --> 02:03:58,840
and in the things that you

2776
02:04:04,580 --> 02:04:01,300
here in this country and in you know a

2777
02:04:07,050 --> 02:04:04,590
lesser way in England for instance and

2778
02:04:08,910 --> 02:04:07,060
he basically is very excited he says

2779
02:04:12,770 --> 02:04:08,920
that this is a subject that's attracting

2780
02:04:14,490 --> 02:04:12,780
mainstream academic types there's

2781
02:04:16,649 --> 02:04:14,500
scientists are interested in these

2782
02:04:19,109 --> 02:04:16,659
subjects in the country

2783
02:04:21,060 --> 02:04:19,119
you know I really wanted to hear more

2784
02:04:23,370 --> 02:04:21,070
from him but because he was speaking to

2785
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:23,380
Chinese and everybody had to hear alive

2786
02:04:28,620 --> 02:04:26,110
translation by the way there was a live

2787
02:04:34,530 --> 02:04:28,630
translation of the Proceedings into

2788
02:04:36,589 --> 02:04:34,540
Mandarin into Spanish and I think from

2789
02:04:39,390 --> 02:04:36,599
those languages into English as well

2790
02:04:41,129 --> 02:04:39,400
which I thought was a brilliant stroke

2791
02:04:45,660 --> 02:04:41,139
it was probably expensive to pull that

2792
02:04:47,490 --> 02:04:45,670
off but to have un style life sentence

2793
02:04:50,879 --> 02:04:47,500
by sentence translation real-time I

2794
02:04:53,100 --> 02:04:50,889
think is uh it really does broaden the

2795
02:04:55,379 --> 02:04:53,110
potential audience but you know I think

2796
02:04:58,140 --> 02:04:55,389
the Chinese youth logical community

2797
02:05:00,919 --> 02:04:58,150
needs to be embraced more by the West I

2798
02:05:04,370 --> 02:05:00,929
think that there is a real serious

2799
02:05:08,100 --> 02:05:04,380
disconnect when it comes to our

2800
02:05:10,410 --> 02:05:08,110
involvement with the UFO subject and how

2801
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:10,420
it's being handled over there I think we

2802
02:05:16,859 --> 02:05:13,810
really need to broaden our you know our

2803
02:05:19,890 --> 02:05:16,869
networking around the world I think that

2804
02:05:21,870 --> 02:05:19,900
there's the the American ufology tends

2805
02:05:23,550 --> 02:05:21,880
to kind of have the blinders on and

2806
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:23,560
think that everything is all you know

2807
02:05:28,320 --> 02:05:25,810
because our governments kind of call the

2808
02:05:30,959 --> 02:05:28,330
shots and all this stuff you know you

2809
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:30,969
know where the where the thing here I

2810
02:05:36,479 --> 02:05:34,330
think we need to to kind of humble

2811
02:05:38,399 --> 02:05:36,489
ourselves as youth illogical

2812
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:38,409
investigators and researchers and really

2813
02:05:44,850 --> 02:05:40,960
make more of a concerted effort to get

2814
02:05:47,790 --> 02:05:44,860
involved globally the largest as I said

2815
02:05:50,729 --> 02:05:47,800
a group of no civilian investigators by

2816
02:05:53,370 --> 02:05:50,739
far is in China in fact you probably had

2817
02:05:55,379 --> 02:05:53,380
a people differ in that one group they

2818
02:05:57,030 --> 02:05:55,389
could probably match all the other

2819
02:05:58,890 --> 02:05:57,040
groups on the planet combined

2820
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:58,900
practically well you know that's the big

2821
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:02,320
thing two organizations like MUFON which

2822
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:04,210
has been around for what over 40 years

2823
02:06:08,729 --> 02:06:06,010
now they only have a few thousand

2824
02:06:11,669 --> 02:06:08,739
members a large number of members yeah

2825
02:06:12,580 --> 02:06:11,679
and in my point exactly and you know I

2826
02:06:15,609 --> 02:06:12,590
think it's important

2827
02:06:19,209 --> 02:06:15,619
to understand that that that there have

2828
02:06:21,220 --> 02:06:19,219
been some pretty interesting revelations

2829
02:06:24,129 --> 02:06:21,230
and and documentation that has been

2830
02:06:26,649 --> 02:06:24,139
released by other other countries and we

2831
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:26,659
did get I think a pretty good quick

2832
02:06:31,959 --> 02:06:30,110
thumbnail re-education about how the

2833
02:06:34,180 --> 02:06:31,969
South American countries and how certain

2834
02:06:38,050 --> 02:06:34,190
European countries have opened up their

2835
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:38,060
files to a certain extent there was some

2836
02:06:46,950 --> 02:06:41,210
question about how you know how

2837
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:46,960
extensive this disclosure of information

2838
02:06:52,030 --> 02:06:49,520
and obviously sighting reports have been

2839
02:06:55,030 --> 02:06:52,040
disclosed but but I think what we've

2840
02:06:57,609 --> 02:06:55,040
been skirting around is at what point

2841
02:07:01,780 --> 02:06:57,619
does that door slam shut when it comes

2842
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:01,790
to the g8 countries or the South

2843
02:07:05,830 --> 02:07:04,250
American countries is there you know a

2844
02:07:08,260 --> 02:07:05,840
certain amount of information it's being

2845
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:08,270
held back and I think a real classic

2846
02:07:13,780 --> 02:07:10,610
sort of litmus test for this will be the

2847
02:07:16,359 --> 02:07:13,790
Brazilian Air Force files we do know

2848
02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:16,369
that they have incredible footage

2849
02:07:21,550 --> 02:07:19,130
they've only released a certain amount

2850
02:07:24,550 --> 02:07:21,560
of photographs and very limited amount

2851
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:24,560
of film we do know that they have

2852
02:07:29,229 --> 02:07:26,650
incredible stuff that they gathered

2853
02:07:32,589 --> 02:07:29,239
during projects also which I mentioned

2854
02:07:35,439 --> 02:07:32,599
earlier involve the investigating the

2855
02:07:37,810 --> 02:07:35,449
cases around the island of course at the

2856
02:07:40,660 --> 02:07:37,820
at the mouth of the Amazon River where

2857
02:07:42,879 --> 02:07:40,670
for possibly more people were killed by

2858
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:42,889
objects of many people dozens of people

2859
02:07:47,399 --> 02:07:46,130
were injured by these troopers that were

2860
02:07:49,870 --> 02:07:47,409
going through the jungle at night

2861
02:07:52,300 --> 02:07:49,880
hitting people with what appeared to be

2862
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:52,310
some sort of particle beam weapon the

2863
02:07:56,939 --> 02:07:54,170
Brazilian Air Force was right there they

2864
02:07:59,800 --> 02:07:56,949
have footage of a huge mothership

2865
02:08:01,570 --> 02:07:59,810
servicing in the mouth of the Amazon

2866
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:01,580
River they have some incredible gun

2867
02:08:07,919 --> 02:08:04,010
camera footage from that from that time

2868
02:08:11,350 --> 02:08:07,929
period and other you know incidents and

2869
02:08:12,879 --> 02:08:11,360
AJ is really I spoke with him a little

2870
02:08:14,649 --> 02:08:12,889
bit we hope to get him back on the show

2871
02:08:17,879 --> 02:08:14,659
here as soon as possible

2872
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:17,889
there is some really interesting new

2873
02:08:25,149 --> 02:08:21,770
revelations about the possible release

2874
02:08:27,970 --> 02:08:25,159
of some really sensational

2875
02:08:32,410 --> 02:08:27,980
data by the Brazilian Air Force and the

2876
02:08:35,169 --> 02:08:32,420
Brazilian government that could be start

2877
02:08:37,330 --> 02:08:35,179
the Domino's and I have a sense that if

2878
02:08:40,810 --> 02:08:37,340
the Brazilian Air Force fesses up and

2879
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:40,820
says hey we know this this this and this

2880
02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:42,800
you know our captain had a project

2881
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:45,400
saucer actually had interactions with

2882
02:08:51,700 --> 02:08:48,290
non terrestrial intelligence if you will

2883
02:08:53,580 --> 02:08:51,710
that would that would be huge and you

2884
02:08:57,090 --> 02:08:53,590
know the fact that the US government

2885
02:09:01,330 --> 02:08:57,100
wasn't involved in the Virginia case

2886
02:09:05,229 --> 02:09:01,340
which for new listeners happened I think

2887
02:09:09,060 --> 02:09:05,239
in what 1996 gene outside of aji nia

2888
02:09:13,180 --> 02:09:09,070
brazil object crashed there were two

2889
02:09:16,660 --> 02:09:13,190
supposed live aliens that were captured

2890
02:09:19,330 --> 02:09:16,670
they both died eventually I think within

2891
02:09:21,790 --> 02:09:19,340
a short time parade and there is some

2892
02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:21,800
smoking guns sort of circumstantial

2893
02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:24,290
evidence to suggest that the u.s. came

2894
02:09:28,410 --> 02:09:26,090
down and appropriated some of the

2895
02:09:31,780 --> 02:09:28,420
wreckage and at least one of the bodies

2896
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:31,790
again as most of our listeners know I'm

2897
02:09:38,169 --> 02:09:34,130
it's gonna take a lot to convince me

2898
02:09:41,410 --> 02:09:38,179
that that's reality but you know if they

2899
02:09:44,379 --> 02:09:41,420
did capture these aliens they and they

2900
02:09:45,910 --> 02:09:44,389
release this data in a show footage and

2901
02:09:47,709 --> 02:09:45,920
they show our Topsy's and they show

2902
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:47,719
these other things this this could start

2903
02:09:53,770 --> 02:09:51,170
the domino parade just for our listeners

2904
02:09:56,820 --> 02:09:53,780
benefit if you go to Wikipedia you'll

2905
02:09:59,950 --> 02:09:56,830
find the event occurred in 1996 that

2906
02:10:03,669 --> 02:09:59,960
Kevin Randall says this case is as

2907
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:03,679
complicated as any other in the UFO

2908
02:10:09,100 --> 02:10:06,770
field yeah the Brazilian Roswell has

2909
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:09,110
been called a yes indeed and we're

2910
02:10:14,830 --> 02:10:11,770
talking ladies and gentlemen about the

2911
02:10:16,990 --> 02:10:14,840
citizens hearing on disclosure Chris

2912
02:10:20,470 --> 02:10:17,000
O'Brien present and accounted for with

2913
02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:20,480
gene and Chris you're in the

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this is to romp liar cluster of UFO on

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cycle feet other looks when you're

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listening to the podcast

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[Music]

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02:14:59,390 --> 02:14:57,990
Chris O'Brien live away ladies and

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gentlemen has been talking for so long

3025
02:15:03,260 --> 02:15:01,380
he is starved he wants to get a

3026
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hamburger or something yeah he doesn't

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02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:05,130
eat hamburgers what would you normally

3028
02:15:09,350 --> 02:15:07,170
have as a dinner going to one of these

3029
02:15:12,050 --> 02:15:09,360
events such as a citizen hearing on

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disclosure would you have something yeah

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I tend to eat light I like like Caesar

3032
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salad that sort of thing maybe seafood I

3033
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just I find it if I if I eat like heavy

3034
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:25,680
breakfasts or lunches or what-have-you

3035
02:15:30,200 --> 02:15:28,530
it just weighs me down and and in light

3036
02:15:32,330 --> 02:15:30,210
of the subject matter and it being a

3037
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little bit a little bit how would I put

3038
02:15:37,550 --> 02:15:34,860
it so then for a mundane to me in terms

3039
02:15:38,900 --> 02:15:37,560
of listening for new things exciting

3040
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things I mean I've heard all this stuff

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before so you tend to the zone out and

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lose your your edge and and you start to

3043
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fall asleep so if you eat light and you

3044
02:15:53,570 --> 02:15:51,060
know hopefully get get enough sleep then

3045
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that keeps you nice and frosty and you

3046
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:55,860
know my stomach's kind of I drank about

3047
02:15:59,810 --> 02:15:57,840
four cups of coffee today which is about

3048
02:16:02,960 --> 02:15:59,820
twice as many as I normally drink so

3049
02:16:05,420 --> 02:16:02,970
that's kind of giving me a bit of an

3050
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edge keep me frosty good four cups of

3051
02:16:09,110 --> 02:16:06,930
coffee would keep me up all night I

3052
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remember working at a radio station long

3053
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long ago in a galaxy far far away where

3054
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the program director who was one of the

3055
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mid morning deejays he come in with four

3056
02:16:23,540 --> 02:16:20,850
cups of coffee that he would proceed to

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consume during the course of his 3-hour

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board shift as we call it during his

3059
02:16:28,970 --> 02:16:27,780
show I guess it didn't matter that by

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the time we got to the end of the

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02:16:33,590 --> 02:16:32,070
segment his coffee was getting cold he

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didn't have any microwave ovens I think

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02:16:37,640 --> 02:16:35,610
we were before microwave ovens in those

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years and probably before the

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horse-and-buggy we didn't even have

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those but seriously speaking that's a

3067
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lot of coffee man he'd probably be

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grinding his teeth right

3069
02:16:49,850 --> 02:16:47,850
well when I've done long drives you know

3070
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cross-country drives I have done that a

3071
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few times in my life I've had lots and

3072
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lots of coffee I went to the bathroom

3073
02:16:59,930 --> 02:16:57,720
lots and lots of times but I don't want

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to get graphic about this actually if

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anyone cares what I had for dinner a

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chicken sandwich and a baked potato well

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I'll tell you know what I found

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about coffee Jean that's like beer you

3079
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don't really buy it you rent it bad joke

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that's but we should get a bad joke

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recording her stinger and when Chris is

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about to let loose with one there you go

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we were talking about the fact that they

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had representatives I wasn't joking you

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thought that was that was serious you

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don't buy coffee you rent it that was a

3087
02:17:38,459 --> 02:17:32,290
statement of fact my friend now that was

3088
02:17:41,370 --> 02:17:38,469
no joke okay well I will not ever mind I

3089
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just think that kind of fell on the

3090
02:17:46,050 --> 02:17:43,679
wrong year here okay let's continue on

3091
02:17:47,580 --> 02:17:46,060
Thursday's presentation we had South

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American representatives in the morning

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and then people from the other countries

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in the afternoon the person from China

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and of course we had Nick Pope who

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headed the group in Great Britain that

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had investigated UFOs now in looking at

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European countries the European approach

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anything interesting come out of mr.

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Pope's presentation well you know again

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Nick is you know the master it's kind of

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toeing the company line and and you know

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I've never heard Nick say really much of

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anything except what he says which is

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basically what he's always said and

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probably what he always will say you

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know is it's not something that the the

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Brits really feel is something that's

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you know important in terms of national

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security

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they don't really feel that there's

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anything really earth-shattering about

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02:18:46,740 --> 02:18:44,920
it sure these things fly around but you

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02:18:50,580 --> 02:18:46,750
know we can't do anything about it

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02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:50,590
he mentioned I forget 34,000 sightings

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02:19:00,330 --> 02:18:55,690
and out of those what I think 700 or so

3117
02:19:02,790 --> 02:19:00,340
or unexplained and you know I mean his

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whole thing is look I worked at the emod

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at the UFO desk for three years it

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really you know it didn't it was closed

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down because it was really nothing to it

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02:19:16,770 --> 02:19:15,070
nobody really felt that it was important

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02:19:19,799 --> 02:19:16,780
enough to really you know spend a lot of

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money and resources pursuing

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you know he kind of treats it in a very

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kind of offhand way it's like well you

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know the British government doesn't

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really care you know and basically I

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think could be underlying point that

3130
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he's making his look if anything really

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important happens you Yanks are going to

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be you know taken over and in taken

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charge and that came to pretty loud and

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clear

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02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:41,729
during the Bentwaters section of the

3136
02:19:45,359 --> 02:19:44,170
presentations I think you know that

3137
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would have been the second day I believe

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02:19:50,609 --> 02:19:48,250
for the first day actually and some of

3139
02:19:53,219 --> 02:19:50,619
his comments were pretty revealing about

3140
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that is that you know number one how

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many you know British soldiers or

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British personnel were were president

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hit at Bentwaters and his comment was

3144
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like I don't know maybe half a dozen you

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02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:08,290
know and you're talking about 12,000

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02:20:12,090 --> 02:20:09,760
people or 10,000 people they're all

3147
02:20:15,330 --> 02:20:12,100
Americans so I mean that should give you

3148
02:20:17,689 --> 02:20:15,340
an idea that you know when it comes to

3149
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the subjects the Americans pretty much

3150
02:20:22,469 --> 02:20:20,229
you know they call the shots and how

3151
02:20:24,210 --> 02:20:22,479
these things were investigated with it

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at least within the NATO countries

3153
02:20:30,030 --> 02:20:28,149
definitely and I think in in in some way

3154
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:30,040
shape or form Indian in South America

3155
02:20:34,290 --> 02:20:31,840
and other other countries too in the

3156
02:20:36,269 --> 02:20:34,300
West one of the things that did come

3157
02:20:39,210 --> 02:20:36,279
through which I was a little surprised

3158
02:20:44,309 --> 02:20:39,220
by is the extent of u.s. involvement in

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02:20:47,849 --> 02:20:44,319
UFO supposed UFO recovery operations or

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02:20:51,689 --> 02:20:47,859
real amazing close encounter type cases

3161
02:20:54,929 --> 02:20:51,699
the project saucer who only lasted for a

3162
02:20:57,479 --> 02:20:54,939
month four months down in the cloris

3163
02:21:00,660 --> 02:20:57,489
area of the Amazon in Brazil in the in

3164
02:21:02,399 --> 02:21:00,670
77 and as soon as this close encounter

3165
02:21:04,349 --> 02:21:02,409
happened between the head of the of the

3166
02:21:06,630 --> 02:21:04,359
project basically the Brazilian Air

3167
02:21:09,389 --> 02:21:06,640
Force officer the Americans came in and

3168
02:21:11,790 --> 02:21:09,399
everything got shut down and in time and

3169
02:21:13,559 --> 02:21:11,800
time again you kind of hear this kind of

3170
02:21:15,630 --> 02:21:13,569
hinting around that well as soon as the

3171
02:21:17,340 --> 02:21:15,640
Americans get involved boom you know

3172
02:21:20,189 --> 02:21:17,350
it's out of our hands it's like we go

3173
02:21:23,010 --> 02:21:20,199
around and sort of stiff arm and muscle

3174
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:23,020
in on on these cases and and they

3175
02:21:27,479 --> 02:21:25,210
disappear into a black hole you know and

3176
02:21:29,429 --> 02:21:27,489
now I've heard this before but what to

3177
02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:29,439
hear it from the actual investigators

3178
02:21:33,330 --> 02:21:32,170
themselves from those countries and they

3179
02:21:35,790 --> 02:21:33,340
start citing

3180
02:21:38,940 --> 02:21:35,800
laughter exam Proctor example of well

3181
02:21:40,530 --> 02:21:38,950
then the Americans came and you know we

3182
02:21:42,300 --> 02:21:40,540
don't know what happened after that you

3183
02:21:44,099 --> 02:21:42,310
know I heard that a number of times and

3184
02:21:47,420 --> 02:21:44,109
and you've got to scratch your head and

3185
02:21:50,790 --> 02:21:47,430
wonder you know if if something like a

3186
02:21:52,530 --> 02:21:50,800
disclosure a complete transparent

3187
02:21:55,770 --> 02:21:52,540
disclosure by the Brazilian Air Force

3188
02:21:58,440 --> 02:21:55,780
let's say based on on what we do suspect

3189
02:22:00,660 --> 02:21:58,450
is there that could be really major that

3190
02:22:03,330 --> 02:22:00,670
could be a big deal and that may be

3191
02:22:05,429 --> 02:22:03,340
enough momentum to get that chain of

3192
02:22:09,090 --> 02:22:05,439
dominoes going and then we might see

3193
02:22:13,139 --> 02:22:09,100
some of the real secret files around the

3194
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world then maybe open up because you

3195
02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:14,410
know I think it's like everybody's

3196
02:22:17,940 --> 02:22:16,090
waiting for somebody else to do it you

3197
02:22:19,740 --> 02:22:17,950
know because we know the Americans

3198
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:19,750
aren't going to do it and so if one of

3199
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:23,200
us does it then you know boom maybe

3200
02:22:27,660 --> 02:22:25,570
we're gonna see you know that hundred

3201
02:22:30,719 --> 02:22:27,670
monkey type scenario happened and then

3202
02:22:34,020 --> 02:22:30,729
that will possibly force the u.s. to it

3203
02:22:38,250 --> 02:22:34,030
least make some sort of statement

3204
02:22:40,530 --> 02:22:38,260
besides ridicule and and admonishments

3205
02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:40,540
of well what are you asking us for we've

3206
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been out of the UFO business since 1969

3207
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when we did our disclosure people say

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well how come the Americans won't

3209
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disclose what they know about UFOs

3210
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according to the government we did

3211
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disclose all that when we closed Project

3212
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Blue Book and and presented the files

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Danny Sheehan gave his story of getting

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permission to go in and see the

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classified portion of the Blue Book

3216
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files and in the photographs of the

3217
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crash saucer with the hieroglyphics on

3218
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it that he was able to trace on the

3219
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cardboard of his legal pad and sneak it

3220
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out you know that was pretty riveting

3221
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stuff you know there were a number of

3222
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moments that really do kind of suggest

3223
02:23:32,610 --> 02:23:27,939
to me that it's have been running this

3224
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whole thing all along and to greater and

3225
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lesser degree obviously some Russian or

3226
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former Soviet Union type reports may be

3227
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held back I'm sure there's Chinese

3228
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reports that we the Americans aren't on

3229
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control over but for the most part

3230
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most of these events when they occur

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people kind of defer to the American

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expertise in these matters and you

3233
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wonder if the countries who don't like

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us so much would one day decide to take

3235
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the initiative and start releasing

3236
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information but we have one more segment

3237
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of the show to get into that on and

3238
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we're talking about on this week's

3239
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episode the citizens hearing on

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disclosure of the National Press Club in

3241
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Washington DC but Chris O'Brien was

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present and accounted for with gene and

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to the Rendlesham UFO incident you're

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listening to the podcast the gold

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they have to expect here we had hoped to

3357
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have a few of the participants on the

3358
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show they will be on over the next few

3359
02:29:07,810 --> 02:29:05,450
weeks everybody is just busy at the

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event and a lot of people who have

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presentations have multiple

3362
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presentations at the citizens hearing on

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disclosure so that's where you go yeah I

3364
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would have helped if I had a computer

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here if I had a computer I could have

3366
02:29:23,560 --> 02:29:21,080
gotten little sound bites and all sorts

3367
02:29:25,300 --> 02:29:23,570
of stuff today but again I'm working as

3368
02:29:27,880 --> 02:29:25,310
well so I'm kind of handcuffed to a

3369
02:29:31,120 --> 02:29:27,890
certain extent as well but I have gotten

3370
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:31,130
promises from a number of people who are

3371
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:33,050
very excited to get back on the show we

3372
02:29:36,310 --> 02:29:34,490
do have a lot of fans in the

3373
02:29:38,770 --> 02:29:36,320
investigative and research community a

3374
02:29:40,719 --> 02:29:38,780
lot of fans of the show and Peter

3375
02:29:43,150 --> 02:29:40,729
Davenport's just just dying to get back

3376
02:29:45,400 --> 02:29:43,160
on the show it was a my first chance to

3377
02:29:48,540 --> 02:29:45,410
really get a chance to meet him and at

3378
02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:48,550
least exchange pleasantries and and

3379
02:29:54,219 --> 02:29:51,290
congratulate him on his a really good

3380
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:54,229
job that he did presenting in national

3381
02:29:58,780 --> 02:29:56,000
UFO Reporting Center to the

3382
02:30:02,290 --> 02:29:58,790
congressional the congressional

3383
02:30:05,469 --> 02:30:02,300
clearance and he's he's an amazing guy

3384
02:30:07,540 --> 02:30:05,479
in his own right he really does he has a

3385
02:30:11,200 --> 02:30:07,550
passion for the subject he's very

3386
02:30:13,840 --> 02:30:11,210
well-spoken he's done a thankless job

3387
02:30:18,630 --> 02:30:13,850
trying to psych him through and whittle

3388
02:30:21,550 --> 02:30:18,640
through all these reports that he's

3389
02:30:24,070 --> 02:30:21,560
managed to accumulate over over his

3390
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almost 20 years and and it was real good

3391
02:30:28,450 --> 02:30:26,420
to finally meet him there were others

3392
02:30:31,650 --> 02:30:28,460
that I finally got a chance to meet for

3393
02:30:35,350 --> 02:30:31,660
the first time and and Danny Sheehan

3394
02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:35,360
very impressed I mean the guy presented

3395
02:30:40,360 --> 02:30:38,330
the Pentagon Papers case to the Supreme

3396
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:40,370
Court just out of law school when he was

3397
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:43,610
in his 20s handled the Karen Silkwood

3398
02:30:52,660 --> 02:30:49,250
case handled iran-contra represented two

3399
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:52,670
Jesuits for many many years here in the

3400
02:30:57,120 --> 02:30:54,410
United States just an incredibly

3401
02:30:59,740 --> 02:30:57,130
talented guy I mean he's got a degree in

3402
02:31:03,400 --> 02:30:59,750
divinities he's got a law degree both

3403
02:31:06,400 --> 02:31:03,410
from Harvard and talk about just an

3404
02:31:08,920 --> 02:31:06,410
amazing guide of to allow himself to be

3405
02:31:10,150 --> 02:31:08,930
tainted by the UFO subject for the last

3406
02:31:12,130 --> 02:31:10,160
twenty five thirty

3407
02:31:15,340 --> 02:31:12,140
pretty amazing can't wait to get Danny

3408
02:31:17,200 --> 02:31:15,350
on now let's just go back to one thing

3409
02:31:18,639 --> 02:31:17,210
here which i mentioned before we broken

3410
02:31:20,290 --> 02:31:18,649
this is our final segment of the power

3411
02:31:23,410 --> 02:31:20,300
cast this week ladies and gentlemen and

3412
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:23,420
that is the fact that we have countries

3413
02:31:28,179 --> 02:31:25,250
with whom we don't always get along like

3414
02:31:30,189 --> 02:31:28,189
Russia like China particularly those two

3415
02:31:32,620 --> 02:31:30,199
countries and you have to think here

3416
02:31:35,439 --> 02:31:32,630
maybe the Americans can ride roughshod

3417
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:35,449
over British bureaucrats like a Nick

3418
02:31:40,210 --> 02:31:37,850
Pope but we don't have that kind of

3419
02:31:42,370 --> 02:31:40,220
influence in China we don't have that

3420
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:42,380
kind of influence in Russia don't you

3421
02:31:47,260 --> 02:31:44,960
think that Vladimir over there in Russia

3422
02:31:49,990 --> 02:31:47,270
wouldn't want to upstage the u.s. if

3423
02:31:51,910 --> 02:31:50,000
there was a reason to do so well that's

3424
02:31:53,950 --> 02:31:51,920
getting back to what I was saying before

3425
02:31:56,439 --> 02:31:53,960
if we could get a country like Brazil

3426
02:31:59,229 --> 02:31:56,449
that probably is one of the most active

3427
02:32:03,130 --> 02:31:59,239
youth illogical hot spots on the planet

3428
02:32:05,650 --> 02:32:03,140
they've already created a joint civilian

3429
02:32:09,729 --> 02:32:05,660
government military investigative

3430
02:32:13,150 --> 02:32:09,739
research body and with that kind of you

3431
02:32:15,939 --> 02:32:13,160
know sort of transparency and in an open

3432
02:32:18,610 --> 02:32:15,949
door so you co mutual work together

3433
02:32:21,580 --> 02:32:18,620
between the the private in the you know

3434
02:32:23,860 --> 02:32:21,590
the government sector it would be really

3435
02:32:26,320 --> 02:32:23,870
interesting to see what a country like

3436
02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:26,330
Russia or was in you know less of a

3437
02:32:30,820 --> 02:32:28,399
China I think it's less likely that

3438
02:32:32,139 --> 02:32:30,830
China will open up their their files

3439
02:32:34,210 --> 02:32:32,149
because because they know a lot of

3440
02:32:36,700 --> 02:32:34,220
commerce with the u.s. they make a lot

3441
02:32:38,410 --> 02:32:36,710
of money from us they own all our bonds

3442
02:32:40,240 --> 02:32:38,420
so therefore they want it well and

3443
02:32:42,250 --> 02:32:40,250
they're very secretive to begin with a

3444
02:32:44,860 --> 02:32:42,260
very control oriented I think Russia is

3445
02:32:46,059 --> 02:32:44,870
more of the wild wild East out there one

3446
02:32:48,790 --> 02:32:46,069
thing I wanted to bring up here Chris

3447
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:48,800
and that is Japan the Japan has an

3448
02:32:53,889 --> 02:32:50,810
incredible amount of UFO interest I

3449
02:32:56,229 --> 02:32:53,899
remember back even in the 60s and 70s I

3450
02:32:59,290 --> 02:32:56,239
was in touch with a number of Japanese

3451
02:33:01,599 --> 02:32:59,300
UFO researchers that's the word Japan

3452
02:33:05,410 --> 02:33:01,609
has not come up one time in this entire

3453
02:33:07,389 --> 02:33:05,420
entire week isn't that strange yeah I'm

3454
02:33:09,910 --> 02:33:07,399
just gonna mention that I find that very

3455
02:33:12,849 --> 02:33:09,920
strange and I also find it strange that

3456
02:33:17,080 --> 02:33:12,859
we don't have some sort of

3457
02:33:21,550 --> 02:33:17,090
representation from Southeast Asia and

3458
02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:21,560
in Japan also Australia is noticeably

3459
02:33:25,020 --> 02:33:22,690
absent and

3460
02:33:27,570 --> 02:33:25,030
a lot of UFO action there we've had yes

3461
02:33:29,371 --> 02:33:27,580
one or two people from Australia on the

3462
02:33:30,990 --> 02:33:29,381
para caste talking about events there

3463
02:33:33,661 --> 02:33:31,000
and we're going to pursue those in more

3464
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:33,671
detail in the future well go figure you

3465
02:33:38,820 --> 02:33:36,250
know again I just find that very curious

3466
02:33:41,430 --> 02:33:38,830
I guess you can only include so many

3467
02:33:44,700 --> 02:33:41,440
people but someone like a bill talker

3468
02:33:46,650 --> 02:33:44,710
you know Norio Hayakawa or somebody like

3469
02:33:49,890 --> 02:33:46,660
that even just have somebody there

3470
02:33:52,350 --> 02:33:49,900
representing a particular facet or

3471
02:33:54,121 --> 02:33:52,360
country I think it was really important

3472
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:54,131
and the other part of the world we don't

3473
02:34:00,200 --> 02:33:58,240
talk about is the Middle East yeah what

3474
02:34:02,911 --> 02:34:00,210
about Israel

3475
02:34:05,211 --> 02:34:02,921
aren't there Israeli UFO researchers of

3476
02:34:08,841 --> 02:34:05,221
course you know very Thomas of course

3477
02:34:11,961 --> 02:34:08,851
there are a number of them and you know

3478
02:34:15,751 --> 02:34:11,971
near and Middle Eastern countries have

3479
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:15,761
historically had an incredible you know

3480
02:34:22,381 --> 02:34:19,120
tradition in history of of unusual

3481
02:34:24,661 --> 02:34:22,391
sightings events I haven't heard I don't

3482
02:34:28,291 --> 02:34:24,671
I think there was one mention of the

3483
02:34:29,610 --> 02:34:28,301
1976 Tehran event which is one of the

3484
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:29,620
best ever

3485
02:34:36,331 --> 02:34:33,490
historical UFO cases where we're you

3486
02:34:40,440 --> 02:34:36,341
know f4 phantoms scrambled from Tehran

3487
02:34:43,770 --> 02:34:40,450
to to find out about a particular object

3488
02:34:45,961 --> 02:34:43,780
that was a bogey over over the city

3489
02:34:48,751 --> 02:34:45,971
there and they attempted the fire and

3490
02:34:51,751 --> 02:34:48,761
there their instruments were were

3491
02:34:55,770 --> 02:34:51,761
scrambled in and the the actual missiles

3492
02:35:00,390 --> 02:34:55,780
failed to fire a very important case Ron

3493
02:35:03,081 --> 02:35:00,400
Regehr was able to get DSP spy satellite

3494
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:03,091
or some spy satellite data that that

3495
02:35:07,230 --> 02:35:06,490
that actually corroborated the the event

3496
02:35:09,570 --> 02:35:07,240
taking place

3497
02:35:11,551 --> 02:35:09,580
in terms of the object coming in so we

3498
02:35:13,860 --> 02:35:11,561
have a new judge tremendous amount of

3499
02:35:15,841 --> 02:35:13,870
information about that particular case

3500
02:35:19,591 --> 02:35:15,851
also cases that have been reported

3501
02:35:21,301 --> 02:35:19,601
during the goal for these last 10 years

3502
02:35:23,970 --> 02:35:21,311
there have been a number of very

3503
02:35:27,301 --> 02:35:23,980
interesting cases that are more than

3504
02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:27,311
likely us exotic technology at work and

3505
02:35:32,610 --> 02:35:30,370
play but but no we haven't seen any

3506
02:35:35,031 --> 02:35:32,620
mention of any Near Eastern in Middle

3507
02:35:37,041 --> 02:35:35,041
Eastern cases Africa

3508
02:35:40,071 --> 02:35:37,051
we haven't had any sort of mentioned

3509
02:35:43,161 --> 02:35:40,081
about African cases the incredible South

3510
02:35:46,341 --> 02:35:43,171
African case of the South African school

3511
02:35:50,390 --> 02:35:46,351
kids with the landed object and and

3512
02:35:52,881 --> 02:35:50,400
beans in broad daylight there's been no

3513
02:35:55,371 --> 02:35:52,891
mention of Africa no mention of of Japan

3514
02:35:57,981 --> 02:35:55,381
no mention of the Middle East so it's a

3515
02:35:59,541 --> 02:35:57,991
wide world but a lot of that world is

3516
02:36:03,051 --> 02:35:59,551
being ignored for one reason or another

3517
02:36:06,791 --> 02:36:03,061
of course let's be fair international

3518
02:36:09,291 --> 02:36:06,801
UFOs took one day at the event and

3519
02:36:11,270 --> 02:36:09,301
obviously they had to cut and paste and

3520
02:36:13,791 --> 02:36:11,280
they had to be very careful about

3521
02:36:16,100 --> 02:36:13,801
scheduling is a lot more to present than

3522
02:36:17,930 --> 02:36:16,110
they chose to present and you know they

3523
02:36:19,640 --> 02:36:17,940
have a lot of money to fly people over

3524
02:36:23,060 --> 02:36:19,650
from those countries who aren't imagine

3525
02:36:26,031 --> 02:36:23,070
oh yes just flying people in from what

3526
02:36:27,680 --> 02:36:26,041
China yes that would that was the biggie

3527
02:36:29,991 --> 02:36:27,690
but he's the head of one of the you know

3528
02:36:32,241 --> 02:36:30,001
the largest or one of the heads of the

3529
02:36:33,470 --> 02:36:32,251
largest civilian UFO group by far

3530
02:36:35,301 --> 02:36:33,480
probably bigger than all the others

3531
02:36:38,001 --> 02:36:35,311
combined did he have a pretty good

3532
02:36:39,531 --> 02:36:38,011
command of English he had no command of

3533
02:36:41,930 --> 02:36:39,541
English everything was done in Chinese

3534
02:36:45,020 --> 02:36:41,940
with a live translation over headphones

3535
02:36:47,541 --> 02:36:45,030
so you had to actually hire a translator

3536
02:36:49,581 --> 02:36:47,551
you know I'm thinking here too we have

3537
02:36:51,791 --> 02:36:49,591
somebody here who's in our proceedings

3538
02:36:54,470 --> 02:36:51,801
where translator I think in the Chinese

3539
02:36:57,381 --> 02:36:54,480
I'm thinking here we have somebody who

3540
02:37:00,321 --> 02:36:57,391
gave six hundred thousand dollars to

3541
02:37:03,020 --> 02:37:00,331
stage this event now imagine if you put

3542
02:37:06,371 --> 02:37:03,030
six hundred thousand dollars into solid

3543
02:37:08,481 --> 02:37:06,381
UFO research because this event you know

3544
02:37:10,970 --> 02:37:08,491
obviously a lot of information was

3545
02:37:13,761 --> 02:37:10,980
presented due to people who were former

3546
02:37:16,581 --> 02:37:13,771
members of Congress but would it have

3547
02:37:18,201 --> 02:37:16,591
served people better and this is maybe a

3548
02:37:21,051 --> 02:37:18,211
final question to deal with here Chris

3549
02:37:24,501 --> 02:37:21,061
yeah that you know again you know I I

3550
02:37:26,691 --> 02:37:24,511
just I drew when I think of seven you

3551
02:37:30,470 --> 02:37:26,701
know six high a mid to high six-figure

3552
02:37:33,261 --> 02:37:30,480
budgets and stuff with $600,000 we could

3553
02:37:35,211 --> 02:37:33,271
have wired up five of the hottest UFO

3554
02:37:39,261 --> 02:37:35,221
hot spots in the country

3555
02:37:43,781 --> 02:37:39,271
in North America and had 24/7 coverage

3556
02:37:47,421 --> 02:37:43,791
of these areas gathering triangulated

3557
02:37:48,290 --> 02:37:47,431
scientific hard to repeat scientific

3558
02:37:51,860 --> 02:37:48,300
data so

3559
02:37:53,990 --> 02:37:51,870
you know whether it was cost-effective

3560
02:37:55,940 --> 02:37:54,000
in the long run or not I don't know to

3561
02:37:59,270 --> 02:37:55,950
me it was a lot of kind of window

3562
02:38:01,340 --> 02:37:59,280
dressing and you know I'm gonna have to

3563
02:38:03,590 --> 02:38:01,350
think about that let's see how the rest

3564
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:03,600
of the week plays out I'm sure I will

3565
02:38:09,080 --> 02:38:06,930
have my commentary about that but but at

3566
02:38:10,910 --> 02:38:09,090
this point no I don't think that it was

3567
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:10,920
money well spent

3568
02:38:15,290 --> 02:38:13,439
based on what may be the outcome Chris

3569
02:38:18,500 --> 02:38:15,300
O'Brien by the way has his own site our

3570
02:38:21,770 --> 02:38:18,510
strange planet calm that's our strange

3571
02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:21,780
planet calm still undergoing renovation

3572
02:38:25,580 --> 02:38:24,000
and by the way if you want to order one

3573
02:38:27,290 --> 02:38:25,590
of his books just write to Chris from

3574
02:38:28,820 --> 02:38:27,300
the site he'll take care of it because

3575
02:38:31,580 --> 02:38:28,830
they haven't put up the store yet you

3576
02:38:34,219 --> 02:38:31,590
can find us by the way on Twitter we are

3577
02:38:36,230 --> 02:38:34,229
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3578
02:38:38,780 --> 02:38:36,240
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3579
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3580
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:41,370
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3581
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:43,410
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3582
02:38:48,130 --> 02:38:45,210
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3583
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:48,140
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3585
02:39:01,900 --> 02:38:58,880
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3586
02:39:04,770 --> 02:39:01,910
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3587
02:39:08,710 --> 02:39:04,780
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